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This topic was largely inspired by epicmafia.com/topic/16463 in case you want some background. To quickly summarize, I was suspended for 12 hours without being asked for my side of the case for something that was highly debatable and imo not worth any punishment. That topic brought up several issues which need to be addressed.

1) As EM is now there are no formally written rules which describe what constituents as cheating, trolling or undesirable behavior in general. Rules need to be created and they need to be made available to the public.

Things to consider:

Metagaming and to what extent is it acceptable What is trolling? How do you deal with suicides? What are proper punishments for varying acts? Is "neg-bombing" allowed or is it an abuse of power?

2) Unilateral powers of the mods. As of now there is nothing a player can do if they have been unjustly punished aside from complain. This is in conjunction with the previous points makes EM more oligarchical than democratic and holds Lucid and the mods as the supreme rulers. Issues such as consistency of punishment, fairness and so forth come up.

The solidarity of the mods are also a problem. In the link above you see something very interesting. Germ, the one who suspended me was very dismissive of the generous amounts of writing I made to clearly express my case; they seemed only interested in what would defend their position. That is a players vs mods where mods have to cover up and help each other regardless of the truth.

How were the mods picked? I do not remember any sort of voting process. If it was a matter of friendship and likability we have another problem, even if it was Lucids decision.

3) Bullying and meanness. If you look at the game in question you will see an onslaught of rude and angry comments directed toward me. If you look at the forum topic you will see this as well especially in the beginning. And furthermore this is the internet where people suddenly have big balls cause of the safety/anonymity. The issue of cyber bullying is a serious one. It is present in EM somewhat and it needs to be addressed. To me, this single issue is more important than any of the other ones and ties directly into the rules. Do we want to accept cyber bullying behavior? As it is we punish people for trolling but not for being cruel to another human being. Imo we ought to have a rule and a harsh corresponding punishment for offenders. Such ways of acting are simply unjustifiable.

I would like this topic to get stickyed so we can get these issues really noticed and completely resolved.

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I am stuck up. Stop apologizing.
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oh, I thought you were talking to me and getting mad because I called you crank.....which made you look really stuck up at the time, anyway, my bad
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I think PxxxWANG should be suspended.

I don't really care for the big deal over hate speech. I think it's inflated.
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I was talking to jess.
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I dont care

Stall more please
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If you call me by my prior account's name then you will look more observant and clever to everyone who reads your posts.
over 13 years
arlian i don't know who you are. it was a funny typo.

crypto get over yourself bby <3
deletedover 13 years
Jesus Christ, Germatron, how many missteps are you going to take over this issue? He used you as an example. He presented three points and only one of them involved mention of you. Get over yourself.
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well, to be fair, I would like to say leo did before me. He named the thread "rules of em" but then instead of actually creating some rules for em, he spends his entire post ranting against me.
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I like how Germ totally destroyed this thread right off the bat.
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jesswhite•1 hour 20 minutes
"nor will it never be funny."

What would we do without you?
over 13 years
"nor will it never be funny."
over 13 years
hey arlian how about you go be a girl somewhere else
over 13 years
I do not believe in WU TANG since you are a busta Nuck
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Oh, JRoss is still lol
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when isnt adrian right?
over 13 years
I am sorry that I believe in a legal system that has over the last 700ish years proven itself to be effective, if that means I sheep authority in your opinion so be it, but once the mods do something wrong I will be the first to jump down their throats, but since they are in the right here I need to agree with them.

Adrian you are so right
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"so why should we have a page that covers every transgression in detail when all we need is some general guidelines." Because everything that has happened in these topics these days proves they are insufficient. You continually use authority arguments like "they are still used today" and "EM is common law society" like saying it is what it is and that is it.

For your second remark you made a judgment call about my character and then said that unethical behavior is acceptable and victims of it should toughen up. That is simply crazy.
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TheJRoss•2 minutes 41 seconds
he hurt my feelins there4 he is wron
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hehe how r u being on two accounts at once yo
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To connect the dots for you, that means you are wrong and stupid and should probably look into committing yourself to a mental institution. :(
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You evaluate the strength of his argument based on whether or not you like him rather than on . . . um, the strength of his argument.
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Constitutes not constituents in the 2nd paragraph.

Learn to write.
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Thanks, JRoss, for proving my point.
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wonderland•3 minutes 22 seconds
No he didn't but as I stated earlier they were justified at the time in my opinion.

• "were"
• "at the time"
• "in my opinion"

=> merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tiptoeing