G 82 was a code, its metagaming and legal godot learn the damn rules noobshit. He was probably waiting for it. Who knows how many codes they have.

@Ran - So are you telling me xaviers attempts to clean up the site is a waste of time? I find that hard to believe since lucid has deleted numerous trolls from the thread. Xavier told me that so far 10 trolls have been deleted that were on the thread.

lol I looked over it, I do think this is cheatz.

Which again, Jonah does not know if Mikami is scum or not because apparently Mikami "Always claims BP day one," however we know that is not the case. Jonah immmediately knew what to do when he said G 82 too. If Mikami is going to defend himself, he needs to refute that point.

@Matt, Xavier will put anyone on his list with even the sketchiest of evidence and has a few solid non-trolls on that like (myself included). Germ goes out of his way to write needlessly long threads that prove without a shadow of a doubt that someone is a cheater. Germ >>> Xavier

"unless J not talking was part of thier code" derp, i said that on page 1, I am pretty sure it was. And I think that johan was just trusting his friend, which may be not playing to his win condition, but its not cheating

"unless J not talking was part of thier code" derp, i said that on page 1, I am pretty sure it was. And I think that johan was just trusting his friend, which may be not playing to his win condition, but its not cheating

BP never claims mafia, however I have personally (so has Kennedy as stated in the other thread) played games with Mikami (competitive) without said players I'm sure. And some we have lost. In fact I'll invite him to game with me and anyone else on this site tomorrow if he so accepts

"There was no way for jonah to know if Mikami was scum when he claimed bp that game."

and furthermore, there is no way for M to know that J was bp to begin with....unless J not talking was part of their code

@Prosecutor that game was cheating no doubt.

Claiming friend bias is not a convincing argument. Is he able to pull off the same stunts and wins without said players in the game? If he can't, something stinks. I'm guessing from Germatron's report, the meta-abuse was just the tip of the iceberg. There was no way for jonah to know if Mikami was scum when he claimed bp that game.

I dont have the time tonight to continue this argument, however tomorrow I will come on later and talk to germatron one on one.

@KHNM how could you say that? So many of us complain about trolls and cheaters yet we do nothing but make threads about how much we hate them. Germatron and Xavier are doing a great thing for the site for actually doing something then most of us who just whine all day. The site is not broken it is just going through a hard time with the people that are joining recently.

In fact, in all 15 games mikami is aligned with the village, actually. Every. Single. One.

I'd also like to point out that these people are friends and play together in which case its natural that they would play a lot of their games together. Notice how that anyone that trophy runs goes near perfect the whole way. So this just says that he trophy runs and is playing with friends. I'm not making BS arguments, I'm honestly think that you guys need to think about this more

Girallon, I'm afriad your argument is disrupted by the fact that Psycho (who is also possibley princess) is a well known troll for the past long time. He isn't affiliated with mikami in any way that we can assume or prove.

wow this is gold

to branch onto girallon, see http://www.epicmafia.com/game/743849 where J suis the one game I could find where M is mafia

I don't think this is convincing enough.

Mikami wouldn't do this. Very honest player.

Can I haz punches at crying Matt12

I will not wait for Lucid, Lucid decides based on evidence presented, I refuse to let one side be repersented for him. I am not acting based soley on being a lawyer for mikami. I misled you in my earlier post, I don't think he is a cheater. Wendys I didn't jump on the mikami BW because I am the only person on mikami's side. There is no bandwagon to jump on. I looked at the game and examined it and came to the conclusion it was legitimate play. Although they used codes I don't believe its against the rules.

Go outside for a bit calvin. There are dozens of cheaters who aren't as dumb as the ones you will catch, this site is broken beyond repair, so just give it up.

Germatron will very likely become a moderator of the site eventually.

Its making me cry.

Falcon, even though you may disagree with germs thread we will wait for lucid to comment and give a verdict. Lets just stop the arguing please.