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Complaint against Forrest (Apropos)

Carmen
over 6 years

This is a formal complaint against the user Apropos, for incompetent moderation. This is in relation to two recent reports: https://epicmafia.com/report/237469 (in which he wordlessly no vio'd a user who played extremely anti-town and against his win condition), and https://epicmafia.com/report/237471 (in which he gave a violation against a legitimate strategy that was actively trying to achieve a win). In these two verdicts, he displays apathy towards fairly determining the intent of the players' actions.

In addition, in reviewing the appeal of the second report, Apropos used personal miscalculations to enforce a sustained result. See chat logs below:

CarmenK72 - Today at 7:12 PM

I WAS WIFOMING

what the

all I did was guilty my partner lmao, its the most classic wifom

and it usually works these days because no one does it

the only thing thats making this a question of GT at all is because i played a game with him previously

forrest - Today at 7:13 PM

you weren't

you were trying to throw

CarmenK72 - Today at 7:13 PM

holy lmao

im done

i wasnt trying to throw

at all

if i was going to throw id do it

and make a huge production out of it

forrest - Today at 7:14 PM

you did do it

was it worth it?

CarmenK72 - Today at 7:14 PM

no I didnt

I claimed cop

and tried to win

god this is just a1

forrest - Today at 7:14 PM

you're just upset that you got caught throwing when you were trying to be lowkey about it and not get caught

Apropos insisted on an objectively wrong personal projection of me, and shouldn't be in a capacity where those biases can further influence his decisions. This is in addition to a blatantly lazy moderation style.

deletedover 6 years
complaint against f*ckers (who are the mods)
Giga13
over 6 years
Life is like a Game of Mafia
Zhuorb
over 6 years
Lodging A Formal Complaint
GayLivesMatter
over 6 years
Zovea, has anyone been holding you back recently?
Zovea
over 6 years
Just remember that being "anti-town" and refusing to play to your win condition aren't stipulations for how gamethrowing is handled on this site.
Nobody
over 6 years
Based of that single game it's a NV because it's just bad gameplay, I understand him not shooting his gun d1 but d2 was just stupid of him because it would've given town an extra ml. but then again bad play isn't a vio.

I'll take a look into his other games and keep in mind his history of GTing and if it's just been constant GT then I'm going to assume this was a gamethrow on the sly
deletedover 6 years

denial says

hint hint to the mod that did that report


https://epicmafia.com/report/237487

let's see what can come of this
denial
over 6 years
hint hint to the mod that did that report
Carmen
over 6 years
I mean when you mismod this hard any explanation you give for anything else isnt really credible anymore
deletedover 6 years

denial says

heres an actual complaint:

if you're gonna close dupes, do the original

you closed the dupes of this and now nobody gave this clear gamethrowing alt a no vio

https://epicmafia.com/report/237444


I'm over 1k points in the current round so I can't handle competitive game reports or I would have.

I just closed comp game report dupes to clear up the open report section a bit.

I also PM'd another mod about that report and recommended doling out a violation for it having read the game as well as a couple other games involving that player myself.
denial
over 6 years
heres an actual complaint:

if you're gonna close dupes, do the original

you closed the dupes of this and now nobody gave this clear gamethrowing alt a no vio

https://epicmafia.com/report/237444
Carmen
over 6 years
a dead nilla who tried to guilty someone throws immense tr onto that person, because why would nilla do that to their partner

its wifom and it works extremely well, I've done it successfully plenty of times
deletedover 6 years
shooting hooker doesn't make you clear my guy
Carmen
over 6 years
Anyone who reads the appeal/games/reports should realize that I made a legitimate gameplay move with intent to clear my partner and win the game. It's a great wifom tactic and any personal grudges end when the game starts. Anything I say N1 is just me being mad at him for the prior game, but I'm not going to actually try and lose a game for myself over it.

Anyway I was told to make a complaint and I agree, you pretty much said a bunch of lies about me and then banned me over a strategy
Bebop
over 6 years
deletedover 6 years
For anyone interested, just read her appeal and the games: https://epicmafia.com/report/237473

Apropos 1h 28m
Based on what you said in the game and after it seems apparent that you were intentionally trying to lose to spite nattygains because you were upset about the game just before it here:

https://epicmafia.com/report/237469

I'll also quote some of your lines from the game that you threw:

03:18 CarmenK72
im throwing

(at daystart you immediately shouted your partner was mafia and claimed cop)

05:37 CarmenK72
it was auto as soon as i flipped maf

The fact of the matter is you tried to lose on purpose to spite nattygains but attempted to do so in a non-obvious way. That doesn't make your actions acceptable.