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Carmen
→deletedalmost 7 years
https://epicmafia.com/report/237471

APPEAL -- this is a ridiculous violation. I was nilla, and had to cc cop. It's great wifom to guilty your partner, because if the real cop has a report on GS or dead, your partner is confirmed town. I played to my wincon and attempted to clear my hooker. Nothing about this shows any intent to GT. If I really wanted to GT I would have just said "I'm maf, my partner is natty", I wouldn't claim cop and sincerely try to get natty cleared. This report sets a precedent for cookie-cutter, by the book meta, instead of encouraging wifom strats that turn town on its head. Please review this and overturn it ASAP.
bewildered
almost 7 years
Clearly CarmenK72 said they were GTing out of spite, their play is a legit strategy which would have worked better if there was a better reaction from nattygains about CarmenK72 being the fake cop. She probably did it out of spite to try and him off but was actually playing to win. If this should be a violation it should be trolling not gamethrow.
Carmen
almost 7 years
I don't ever try to lose. I chewed out nattygains N1 because of his legitimate anti-winning gameplay the previous game and said "im throwing" as a way to make it clear I still held that against him as a player.

But as soon as D1 started, the previous game didn't matter. To the rest of the town, it would make sense that I checked natty (if GS was hooked), and I could easily win a cc with the other cop. If GS wasn't hooked and I got shot, it would doubly make sense that I tried to guilty natty (an apparent town member) as mafia.

This strategy relies on GS getting hooked or cop having a useless report, and when you combine the odds (1/5 and 1/3), it becomes a roughly half chance that the strategy works out. Either I become obvious cop, or natty becomes obvious blue that mafia tried to push on.

I don't let personal stuff affect me winning. I've played games with tons of people I don't like, and I've never thrown against them. Why would I start with this player who I don't even hate?
deletedalmost 7 years
Vote OT to NV

People say “here to throw” all the time it doesn’t mean they are actually there to do so. I don’t think carmen was serious when she said this N1 and guilting your partner can work out well. Bussing isn’t GTing
deletedalmost 7 years
Based on what you said in the game and after it seems apparent that you were intentionally trying to lose to spite nattygains because you were upset about the game just before it here:

https://epicmafia.com/report/237469

I'll also quote some of your lines from the game that you threw:

03:18 CarmenK72
im throwing

(at daystart you immediately shouted your partner was mafia and claimed cop)

05:37 CarmenK72
it was auto as soon as i flipped maf

The fact of the matter is you tried to lose on purpose to spite nattygains but attempted to do so in a non-obvious way. That doesn't make your actions acceptable.
deletedalmost 7 years
I agree this is ridiculous. OT immediately.