Epicmafia

Why is abc still banned?

over 7 years

Posting on behalf of a close friend.

abc was supposed to be fully unbanned on jan 12th 2017

https://epicmafia.com/report/195024 - date given by edark himself https://epicmafia.com/report/203711 - fnoof said edark still stood by this date

https://epicmafia.com/report/204150 - he got site banned a few weeks ago, they never gave the reason.

the last account he bypassed on Juniormafia (4 months ago)

he said he spoke to sweetnkind (a former mod during when abc got site banned) on skype and she claimed that he bypassed to have filed reports on people for main lobby games. but abc has provided a rebuttal again that and says he used this https://s3.amazonaws.com/em-gamerecords/XXXXXX (XXXXXX = game number) to spectate games.

she also claimed he added mods to addmecontacts site 1. that is offsite and therefore not against the rules. 2. abc denies that (there is no proof it was him)

also fnoof going rogue had nothing to do with abc (there is no proof of it either)

so abc has provided rebuttal against all the things thrown at him and there is no proof he did any of those. he served his 4 months time and should be fully unbanned. other people bypassed (vilden, sonseray, coryinthehouse, even me) and were unbanned at their initial unban date

on the cory unban, edark argues about leniency but here he is blatantly ignoring an actual legitimate unban case where he said he would unban a user on the date provided but is not doing so and refuses to give any reason at all

Not to troll, but honestly what you all think is justified? After all, hes a great great epicmafian. I remember someone saying "all cheaters are unbanned and even modded except the funny one"

Unban

More ban

Life ban

Edark

over 7 years

sineadiio says

Edark says

Considering that:

You've bypassed to file reports on users
Were involved in the hack(ferhunde getting modded and joining the fun)
You threatning to dox me and pingu( lol #reformed)

Im wondering why you'd think you get unbanned. Well the decision isnt mine to begin with as if I've been in control you wouldnt have been unbanned to begin with, its up to Pingu to decide. But the answer will problably be a huge no.

"You've bypassed to file reports on users" - as explained in the OP. he used a way without bypassing to spectate games
"Were involved in the hack" he claims his account was also hacked at the time. if you can use that excuse then so can he
"You threatning to dox me and pingu" this was after not being unbanned on his unban date. also threatening to dox =/= dox

How did he find those games then huh? I dont buy that for a second.

The sole fact he threatened both me and pingu is worthy of a perma ban, and I've actually gotten lucid's approval to do so aswell. Perhaps if he apologizes it could be lifted, but who knows. I'll see with pingu what we'll do.

xxerox

over 7 years

ABC if you get me somehow to be admin, i will unban you. The the mods can do whatever they want. I am ok with you unbanned. If you do something wrong we can always ban you again.

I mean, the site is set like that.

There is no perma ban in the rules.

If i am admin, i will have to do some quirking with the rules tho.

deletedover 7 years

Edark says

Considering that:

You've bypassed to file reports on users
Were involved in the hack(ferhunde getting modded and joining the fun)
You threatning to dox me and pingu( lol #reformed)

Im wondering why you'd think you get unbanned. Well the decision isnt mine to begin with as if I've been in control you wouldnt have been unbanned to begin with, its up to Pingu to decide. But the answer will problably be a huge no.

"You've bypassed to file reports on users" - as explained in the OP. he used a way without bypassing to spectate games
"Were involved in the hack" he claims his account was also hacked at the time. if you can use that excuse then so can he
"You threatning to dox me and pingu" this was after not being unbanned on his unban date. also threatening to dox =/= dox

Shrub

over 7 years

go abc!

Edark

over 7 years

Considering that:

You've bypassed to file reports on users
Were involved in the hack(ferhunde getting modded and joining the fun)
You threatning to dox me and pingu( lol #reformed)

Im wondering why you'd think you get unbanned. Well the decision isnt mine to begin with as if I've been in control you wouldnt have been unbanned to begin with, its up to Pingu to decide. But the answer will problably be a huge no.

Merlot

over 7 years

what is this

deletedover 7 years

the problem is, the mod team needs to like drama for em to be fun.

Miki

over 7 years

Miki

over 7 years

the em community needs spicing up

deletedover 7 years

Miki says

Enodia says

Miki says

Enodia says

Miki says

also, hippo much?

Weird, I was banned during the events described in the article, I don't think your arguments apply much.

you did those after, you weren't specifically banned for those reasons.

Your argument is pointless though, you're trying to suggest I was somehow "let go" on those things, I was already banned permanently, how can you punish me further?

Your arguments are bad and you should feel bad.

no? im calling you a hippo

There's nothing hypocritical because I don't presume that me using addmecontacts is somehow correct or right, the issue at hand isn't that i'm a hypocrite, it's that I lack any sort of ethical principle.

deletedover 7 years

Im more arguing in favor of abc being unbanned than both of them being banned

Arcbell

over 7 years

I made a handy drawing for ABC a while back to explain to him why he was banned (he keeps asking me)

Maybe this will help u folk too.

Now the reason he doesn't have that leverage is that he's done enough to permanently lucid off to the point where he's happy to let him stay banned forever with no recourse. Chances are he's staying banned until an admin comes long that likes him for whatever reason (which has happened before with bell, cody, etc)

vilden

over 7 years

@Eris. She's showing how hypocritical you're being. You're also lying since we all know you rebanned him for insulting you

deletedover 7 years

Eris is funny, funny people get away with things, if you don't like it get funnier

deletedover 7 years

I cant imagine the mental gymnastics required for eris to argue someone should be banned, while he himself is not banned.

But then again, eris is kinda known for his mental gymnastics

Miki

over 7 years

everything you did was suddenly forgiven

deletedover 7 years

Becomeclear says

Why isnt sweetnkind mod anymore

Her account got hacked

Lucid blamed her for the actions that were done with it

Despite the fact he should have IP logs he also decided since I have access I MIGHT BE RESPONSIBLE(honestly what kind of half-wit doesn't log IPs)

He removed us.

Miki

over 7 years

Enodia says

Miki says

Enodia says

Miki says

also, hippo much?

Weird, I was banned during the events described in the article, I don't think your arguments apply much.

you did those after, you weren't specifically banned for those reasons.

Your argument is pointless though, you're trying to suggest I was somehow "let go" on those things, I was already banned permanently, how can you punish me further?

Your arguments are bad and you should feel bad.

no? im calling you a hippo

Becomeclear

over 7 years

Why isnt sweetnkind mod anymore

deletedover 7 years

Enodia says

sineadiio says

Enodia says

If anyone actually had proof of BP doing something illegal they should have contacted the authorities instead of quietly sweeping it under the rug with a ban which had nothing to do with any on-site activities, not to mention the fact they potentially committed obstruction of justice by choosing to handle it 'in-house.' You stated it was off-site and hence out of mod jurisdiction, I provided a counter-example, the nature of which is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

ok but wheres the proof abc admitted to error that it was him? show the proof
and you never answered about "the other reason

I don't leak mod chat, try asking the admin.

so there's no proof then

deletedover 7 years

I'll leak old mod chat wait until I get home

deletedover 7 years

StanleyPower says

is miki mika?

who's enodia?

eris is banned, right?

Im having trouble keeping up here

No
Eris
Not anymore.

deletedover 7 years

Miki is mikeyru's alt

deletedover 7 years

sineadiio says

Enodia says

If anyone actually had proof of BP doing something illegal they should have contacted the authorities instead of quietly sweeping it under the rug with a ban which had nothing to do with any on-site activities, not to mention the fact they potentially committed obstruction of justice by choosing to handle it 'in-house.' You stated it was off-site and hence out of mod jurisdiction, I provided a counter-example, the nature of which is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

ok but wheres the proof abc admitted to error that it was him? show the proof
and you never answered about "the other reason

I don't leak mod chat, try asking the admin.

deletedover 7 years

is miki mika?

who's enodia?

eris is banned, right?

Im having trouble keeping up here