yakuza doesnt kill himself when drunked and doesnt perform action, but still visits https://epicmafia.com/game/5423538

I remember when witch killed vigil and cursed his target. The curse was successful despite nobody else visiting the witch target.

https://epicmafia.com/game/5423248 Vigilante visits the person but fails to perform the action. Watcher still sees it (idk how this 'roleblock' works)

Watcher is kind of broken... he can't see priest self visiting either.

that is so weird. it would be okay if roleblocked people still appeared in watcher's report as in, they visit the other player's house but stay on the door because they are roleblocked

i think this should be recoded so watcher keeps consistency with tracker reports.

https://epicmafia.com/game/5423215# This game shows how everything works. Selfvisiting roles (mimic, priest) are the only visits who actually get roleblocked. Watcher doesnt see a drunked person's visit but tracker can see that person visiting? ... bad mechanics

well that is messed up

Attaching knowledge of visit mechanics: https://epicmafia.com/topic/78960

Adding: Roleblocked people's visits still go through like they weren't on tracker reports, with the exception of self-visiting mimic. Also if roleblocked person visits LM, the LM will shout, but won't out the roleblocked person's name. On watcher reports roleblocked people don't appear.

TEST 4: same results as drinking killing mafia

TEST 3: setup 1 nilla, 1 drunk, 1 orc, 1 cop. Roleblocked roles who visit, still visit but do not perform action

TEST #2: setup 1 nilla, 3 orcs, 1 santa. santa gets report when chosen by orcs (non-visiting).

TEST #1: setup 1 nilla, 1 santa, 2 orc breaks the game and doesn't start

And yes, mimic's description doesn't match its coding.

Let me clear one thing: In role description 'chooses' and 'visits' are completely different thats why roles like oracle cannot be roleblocked. And the reason santa doesn't get a report is either lucid messed up,or the description is wrong. I suggest you test a case where only an oracle( a non-visiting role) is on santa and see if he still gets a report... yeah double-visiting mafias- dont you love them??? Role like stalker/janitor/guiser have 2 meetings as you know. AND they can pick 2 completely different players in meetings(let's say janitor picks pranay in mafia meeting and jailer in janitor meeting-in that case,of course pranay will not be janned). That's why watcher saw 2 ppl visiting the dead( the one who led the kill and the one who visited in 2nd night meeting). I hope everything is clear now.

In this game https://epicmafia.com/game/5420908 Tracker tracked a visiting mafia. And watcher was on the kill. Watcher saw me and janitor visit the person because I lead the kill instead, if I hadn't lead the kill would the only visiting mafia be blank?

- if group meetings visits only counts for the leading person, a forced mafia nk (different people voted) means they visit those people as a kill attempt that doesnt go through or it counts as a nl?

okay, thank you (:

so...

- the mimic's action which gets rb'd is the selfvisit, that's why it visits but it doesn't perform action bc the action that makes mimic 'be what it is' is the selfvisit.
- watcher reports sees only the visiting maf, in this case the visiting mafia was the second one because i drunked the first one and since it's a group meeting it still goes through.

with this i can say that tracking a drunked solo killing mafia (eg. janitor, hooker, stalker...) will not visit in either meeting?

dzanek1143, however, says that 'when you play GVF and hooked GS tries to gun santa and nobody else visits santa, the santa doesn't get a report.'. [ https://epicmafia.com/topic/79639 ] -- is it because Santa is also one of those mechanically difficult roles?

Plus,strongman should visit too even if roleblocked.

well considering mimic has lots of flaws(check out the comments below the role description) i cant say anyhing about its mechanics. As to simple roles like janitor,stalker,bodyguard etc. they dont show up in watcher reports when roleblocked because neither they dont self-visit like mimic does,nor their codings are complex.

wait, but.. in that mimic setup when you drank mimic the action wasnt completed but the visit did go through even when drunk.

so only mafia have the 'no visit thing'? it only no visits when its a group meeting?

i think tracker and watcher mechs work differently

oh.................

bc drunk(you) was on rayni

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