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closeddeleteddeletedalmost 10 years
[APPEAL] https://epicmafia.com/report/162295. First of all, he reported it and then moderated the report himself. Next, I was obviously trying to use it as a reaction test; when I was clear, I did not hammer Aesop and I actually went 2/2 in finding both maf.

This report is completely ridiculous
deletedalmost 10 years
They even crossed for me to lynch Aesop and I did not. They gave me hammer to bw vote on anyone and I did not lynch Aesop. Later on, even when I lynched tangent, at the end I still said "muchacho is 2nd maf"

Nowhere did I actually want to lynch Aesop. If my actions and quotes on the day after and the end of the original day do not show that voting Aesop was just a rxn test (and not a gt) then I don't known what will
deletedalmost 10 years
I crossed for Muchacho because Aesop refused to unvote me and everyone trd him on D1.

Look at the day after that where I had hammer.
almost 10 years
Your vote stayed on him through day end. What are you getting at?
deletedalmost 10 years
Togepi please just read the next day and the end of my d1, all you did was c+p my whole reaction test, you never actually showed my real intention through your c+p
deletedalmost 10 years
Togepi read the next day. Was what I said drastic? Yes.

Was it effective in finding maf? Yes.
Did I actually intend on voting Aesop? If his reactions were bad, Yes i would have kept my vote on him. But I did not.
almost 10 years
CCCA
it depends on what team youre on Aesop
Aesop
but it isn't an option with ccca in the table
13:45 CCCA
if youre maf
13:47 CCCA
then we lynch you
13:52 CCCA
and i hammer right
13:53 CCCA
at lylo
13:55 ClaireHux...
SLOWBRO IS MAFIA>
13:56 tangent
or is this grudge
ClaireHuxtable votes Slowbro
14:02 CCCA
i fos aesop
almost 10 years
12:56 CCCA
by the way im clear
12:58 tangent
i was in the last game with you
Slowbro
hey
CCCA
i would have killed Aesop
almost 10 years
CCCA
iamnotdamafia
12:26 CCCA
vote Aesop
12:29 CCCA
muchacho99
12:30 CCCA
vote aesop
12:31 tangent
Like last game, no one would listen to me
12:34 CCCA
tangent vote aesop
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hi
11:13 CCCA
cop here
11:14 Aesop
this is grs worthy but i am a wise and just man
11:16 CCCA
guilty on Aesop
almost 10 years
CCCA votes Aesop
09:23 CCCA
if aesop is town he doesnt deserve to win (tbh we're also better off without him), if hes maf then he loses. bw this
deletedalmost 10 years
oh and Tucker reported AND moderated the report

and only I got the vio, not Aesop when he essentially did the same thing that I did.
deletedalmost 10 years
tl; dr for those who are coming here:

I started off the day by immediately voting Aesop i even said "cop here Aesop guilty" (with cop dead) to make my anger seem real. I used it under the pretense of being mad at him for a past game. However, in reality, I was using it as a reaction test which can be shown by the end of my d1 and d2 where I never fossed Aesop because of his rxn.

The next day, I was clear and I did not try to lynch or vote Aesop in any way. Instead, I lead a lynch on tangent (and at the end of the day said that Muchacho is probably 2nd maf).

I am getting punished for finding both maf through a rxn test. Are you kidding me?
deletedalmost 10 years
ok Tucker go to d1 and read what Aesop said when I unvoted him.

I don't understand what your point is.
deletedalmost 10 years
"The fact that two scum got lynched doesn't justify disregarding your own alignment's wingoal to lynch someone you don't like."

- Tucker

Response: I didn't lynch him, it was ultimately Muchacho who lynched (and he didnt even lynch him). The fact that I lynched 2 scum and not him SHOWS that I did not have a grudge against him and was merely using it as a rxn.

"You spent the entirety of the day doing everything to get him lynched and only buzzed off when the momentum fell off. You could have "grudgelynched" him D2 but I highly doubt you'd want to wait given your obvious frustration with him."

Response: What are you even saying? If i truly wanted to grudgelynch him and make him lose, I could have done that d1 and d2; what difference does it make? I buzzed off because there were no more reactions and everyone gave hammer to Muchacho, obviously I actually had to try to make sense of my reaction tests. Notice that in no place after I unvoted Aesop did i fos Aesop (d2aswell).
deletedalmost 10 years
"25:47 Aesop
and both ccca and tangent towntold a little bit"

"29:22 Aesop
tangent you're literally confirming the lynch on yourself"

He never said anything like that, as opposed to you, who admitted in the pre-game that as long as Aesop loses, you're satisfied.
deletedalmost 10 years
Just know this: If this is a gt, then every subsequent reaction test or hipvote which gets withdrawn as the day goes on can be and will be considered "a grudgelynch."
deletedalmost 10 years
This is clearly a corrupt report: there is no evidence to suggest that I actually would lynch Aesop given the opportunity and secondly, Aesop was the one who kept his vote on me for the entire day, I can't actually go back to review his exact lines because of the vio that you gave me but it went something along the lines of "i will do anything to make sure you lose" and sure enough, the next day, he refuses to vote obvious maf and vegs in a win for town.

Of course, only I get the vio and of course, in no other report does this get labelled as "gt"
deletedalmost 10 years
Then what are you saying? A person can't vote someone for an entire day (on a ml) to garner reactions? Is that what you're saying?

If anything, Aesop is the one that kept his grudge against me, you can reread. he was unwilling to vote tangent and vegged.
deletedalmost 10 years
It was actually quite essential to finding maf because of how willing Tangent was to vote Aesop when simultaneously he was questioning if I actually fossed him. I kept my vote on him for the majority of the day because reactions went on for the majority of the day. I pulled off my vote when people stopped reacting.

Thank you but if this does not get overturned then there is something seriously wrong with the Mod system
deletedalmost 10 years
I'm not saying that.
deletedalmost 10 years
ok Tucker and if he was maf, I would have lynched him; if he had bad reactions I would have lynched him. He did not have a bad reaction so I did not lynch him. I don't understand your argument, where did I GT? I never once hammered him, it was actually Slowbro who hammered (and not him for that fact) and I did not lead a lynch on him the next day as clear.
deletedalmost 10 years
lol Tucker if this is a vio then every vote is essentially a vio. Realize that this would be gt IF i had actually followed through with my actions.

What you're saying with this vio is that people cannot vote someone right away even as a reaction test.

You are absolutely ridiculous.
deletedalmost 10 years
The fact that two scum got lynched doesn't justify disregarding your own alignment's wingoal to lynch someone you don't like.
deletedalmost 10 years
Can I not garner reactions to see how he would respond LMFAO. If i really was salty and not doing a reaction test, I would have lynched him the next day. Instead, I lynched tangent and was going to lynch muchacho the next day. Notice how I never actually tried to get a lynch on you.
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You spent the entirety of the day doing everything to get him lynched and only buzzed off when the momentum fell off. You could have "grudgelynched" him D2 but I highly doubt you'd want to wait given your obvious frustration with him.