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closeddeletedalmost 10 years
https://epicmafia.com/game/3768092/review pretty sure he's grudge lynching me. He voted me 10 seconds into day one and didn't unvote and then kicked on me day 2 it was Lylo.
over 9 years
And before the excuse comes: this does not set some sort of precedent that "tunneling is GT" or that this strategy in and of itself is GT, but rather that I don't believe that you are playing to win when using it in this game (and a few others)
over 9 years
And I realize I've made a 180 from my original position, but I've obviously had a lot of time to think. I apologize it had to take this long though. You will not be getting the one day suspension. It wouldn't make much sense after delaying the verdict by 3 weeks. That's on me. You are definitely getting the violation though. Play to win and don't use the premise of a "strategy" to excuse your behavior.
over 9 years
Furthermore: when this report was filed, there were no valid examples of you switching over to other votes when the "reaction was bad" (your earlier defense was already refuted). Take that however you will.
over 9 years
shimmi, since the filing of this report, you've have a few games that really do point to the possibility that this is a legitimate strategy of yours. In those few examples however, you have something that is blatantly lacking in this game: you give a crap. In this game you recklessly tunnel Fidelis in a way that seems to me (and a lot of the mod team) like you simply aren't playing to win. I really do think you use this quirky playstyle to, whenever it suits you, justify playing games like this, where you just aren't playing to win (or have a grudge).
over 9 years
Ok it's getting closed now. A second until I type up the verdict.
over 9 years
derfel is deleted go ahead and search
deletedover 9 years
Ban derfel
almost 10 years
3 weeks now
almost 10 years
obviously this is no vio at this point
almost 10 years
Rondar 14d 3h
~Please standby for one more day~.
almost 10 years
almost two weeks
almost 10 years
good for derfel, I am not him
deletedalmost 10 years
derfel's been using this "strategy" for years, and there's really no recourse for dealing with it when there's only one game filling at a time.
almost 10 years
is this playing against my win condition or not?
almost 10 years
but I am you can check all of redheart games where I do it successfully
almost 10 years
Shimmi, the fact that you've only stopped pushing your initial fos when they become an un-cc'd pr (yes, including https://epicmafia.com/game/3738598) suggests the conclusion that you aren't actually scumhunting or reaction testing.
almost 10 years
https://epicmafia.com/game/3767893/review where I voted stalker on d1 correctly to win, so doing this is not playing against my win condition now is it?
almost 10 years
https://epicmafia.com/game/3738598 where I changed my mind after reaction
almost 10 years
Ok well, he gets the rest of the day to defend himself against this "new" accusation.
almost 10 years
Shacky got me looking at his game history for this round. It's definitely a trend. He votes someone (always town) and will not unvote no matter what (except in one case where a person was uncc'd PR, but flipped mafia, heh). Might actually consider GT now.
deletedalmost 10 years
this is DERFEL??? LMFAO
deletedalmost 10 years
remove derfel from this website
almost 10 years
shimmi just chooses someone to tunnel at the start of every game. give him a GT vio, it's vash-level trolling since he can justify it any way he wants, but it's still plainly obvious that he's just choosing someone to lynch at the start of the game.
deletedalmost 10 years
hey guess what this is actually a violation.
almost 10 years
sometimes a reaction test also has to do with other people's reactions, I can not divulge more here to protect trade secrets