again, you're linking unrelated games in an attempt to distract the mod that reads this
the GRS report will be filed after this report is handled, and they can read the voting log and system messages in that game
you assumed, but you did not confirm, and you did not retract. you had role information, you had who was gunned information, and yet you still did not retract the fakeclaim. you helped mafia in that game lynch the gunsmith. you played for mafia's win con, not towns
no, you do not have a case on either GT or OGI on me, and thats why you haven't filed it. you are blustering to distract mods because you have gotten caught GTing, GRSing, and exploit abusing
deletedover 7 years
14:20 I wanna grs dramatically
N2 F0ggyDay, the lawyer, was hung from a tree! F0ggyDay commits suicide!
deletedover 7 years
It's not GRS because the system doesn't count it as suicide. It isn't exploit abuse either since this is a purposeful feature and not a glitch.
I intended to lynch you because I did not believe your claim that you were gunsmith. I assumed one of the people voting you was the real gunsmith. Clearly, so did Jesika, as she also voted you and also CC'd gunsmith.
Yes, I do have a case. Instead of giving hammer to an unclear, you decided to let yourself be lynched instead. That is clearly not playing to your win condition - getting bandwagoned by president is a certain loss, while giving hammer to unclear gives you the possibility of winning.
I'm not reporting because I don't care enough and because there is no proof of intentionality. You would surely get a OGI vio if I reported you, but I'm not doing that either.
when someone vegs a game with majority votes on them, it is a game related suicide; you are simply lucky that the system glitched and put it onto london, or you are an exploit abuser
the proof of gamethrow is my role, your role, and jesika's role. you knew your role and jesika's role, therefore i was clear GS to you. no one else claimed GS. by not retracting your claim, you intended to lynch me and help mafia = gamethrow
it is not playing against my win condition to give hammer to my cc, and therefore you have no case on that point. you have not reported it because you know you have no case lol
deletedover 7 years
Ask any mods. That's how suicide mechanics work: the game remains ranked if all votes are cast and a majority of them are on the player who exits the game.
deletedover 7 years
It's not a glitch. When someone exits game with all votes cast and majority of votes on them, it does not count as a suicide. This is done specifically to prevent GRS. London wasn't aware of this mechanic so he sui'd.
For a player's actions to be considered gamethrowing, there has to be proof of intention to throw. I did not ask any of the players who real GS was because I assumed GS wanted to remain hidden, and president suspected you as well. Being uncc'd is not particularly relevant in a random lynch setup where massclaim is avoided. I didn't retract because I thought you were scum, and I wanted you lynched.
Again, you played against your win condition too by refusing to give hammer when the President made clear you would surely get lynched otherwise. But I'm not reporting you for that, now am I?
the GRS to london is obviously a glitch, and it will be filed in a separate report; also you are linking an unrelated game
the fact remains that you GRS first with majority vote on you in the game i linked earlier, as anyone can see by reading d1
for the game this report concerns, you are saying your intention is different, yet your actions constitute GT
if your intention is as what you say it is, you should have asked any of the other players who real GS is. since you did not attempt to see if anyone else was GS, and no one else claimed GS except for me; you should have retracted because you realized i was un cc'd
by not retracting and getting the real GS lynched, you played against your win condition and helped mafia eliminate a clear
You forget there is a sniper in that setup. Lynch goes through as normal when all votes are cast and a majority is on the person exiting the game. Any mod can confirm this.
Gamethrowing requires intention. I thought you were mafia. Therefore lynching you was not intentionally playing against my wincon.
no, i am saying you did GRS in that game, because the day wore on. if the mechanic works as you say it does, then it should have gone to night, but it didn't
whatever you say your intent or strategy was, your actions speak differently
you fakeclaimed, did not retract, and got real GS lynched as town. since there were no other gs claims beyond president: this is a maf-siding anti-town play, meaning you played against your win condition
deletedover 7 years
I also fos'd his blatant OGI.
07:38, 08:02, 09:11, 10:29, 11:16, 11:40
And some lovely HC at 08:17, 11:40
Wow, such towny.
deletedover 7 years
But he's right, the red heart flashes while the game is loading.
deletedover 7 years
So you just admitted that I didn't GRS since I didn't suicide at all and the game remained ranked? Great, glad we cleared that up.
You made the assumption that I was playing against my wincon. I fakeclaimed for the strategic purpose of getting you lynched. I assumed GS was not outing and that you were just trying to lead the lynch off of you, as you were getting lynched and it wasn't yet MYLO. The president FOSed you as well and wanted to lynch you. My fake claim had a strategic purpose and was therefore not GT.
Where is this supposed rule of yours coming from? Because it sure as hell isn't on the rule page.
the game went on as evidenced by my speaking after you GRSed
the fakeclaim is GT by playing against your win condition to get the real PR lynched, since you did not retract. the question is why did you not retract when you realized that president claimed GS, you were bomb, and no one else had claimed GS except for me
the red heart is there while the game loads, which shows that it started as a ranked game, meaning the rule applies
deletedover 7 years
It literally is not, as the system does not register it as a suicide. It has exactly the same effect as hammering self and exiting the game.
Look, not all fakeclaims are GT. The question is whether I thought you were real GS or not. And I didn't.
exiting a ranked game when majority vote is on you is GRS
you made a fakeclaim to get real GS lynched = playing against your win condition
there is a red heart to the top left when you enter the game, nice try
deletedover 7 years
Exiting game while all votes are cast and a majority of them are on you does not constitute a suicide. The lynch just goes through.
I suggest you brush up on mechanics ;)
It is not gamethrowing to counterclaim a role you are not and not retract. Gamethrowing includes intention to lose the game. Straight from the rules page you adore so, gt "includes fake claims made for any other purpose than strategy". Keyword strategy. I fakeclaimed precisely because I thought you were mafia :^)
Oh? It's a ranked game? Why does it say "Village wins! This game was unranked" then? Why is there no red heart? Walk me through it, I'm a noob ;)
it is GT to cc a role you are not as town and not retract
example: a blue claims cop, does not retract and gets real cop lynched
you played against your win condition by cc'ing GS and getting the real GS lynched
yes, it is a ranked game, and therefore the rule applies. when the mod checks the game, they will see the red heart at the top left
deletedover 7 years
I can assume that GS was hiding if everyone else is voting you and you are acting scummy. In fact, that's what I did. Not playing how you want me to play is not GT.
"LondonVegan - suicide"
I clearly did not GRS and if you'd read the game you're citing you'd know that ;)
"Game Violations: Rules for ranked (red and gold heart) games of mafia! These rules do not apply to unranked games. "
you played as if you wanted to get reported and vio'd