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closedover 9 years
cheating and/or having minecraftfangirlftw throw for him in Round 419. http://pastebin.com/AqSsiA9W
over 9 years
Did you actually read the game you are tlaking about? They said they had to go because they had school tomorrow and it was late. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about
over 9 years
shrub, i didn't want to out the time that 11:22 pm is for minecraftgirl in their time zone, because although she did publicly say where she lived in one of her games, i didn't really feel like saying where she did live

what im trying to say is that this person actively played with you during a certain time frame which ranged from about 4-8 am of server time.

however, one game seemed out of fashion and was at 11:22 >PM< server time where they said they wanted you to win and were talking about hearts resetting/etc. this game vegged and it seems odd to me they wouldnt join you in the next game that immediately filled if they wanted you help you win games/etc. also, checking the history of her games, the ones where she DID NOT play with you were around the 11:00ish >PM< server time as well. taking into account minecraftgirls time zone, this is a pretty odd time to be playing.

basically, i do not believe minecraftfangirlftw is a legitimate new user because of everything i've said
over 9 years
HOW THE HELL HAVE I CHESTED, IF YOU THINK THAT GAME WAS GAMETHROWN THEN REFUND THE F'NG HEART AND LET ME TROPHY. I TROPHIED FSIR SND SQUARE THIS IS ABSOLUTELY STUPID.

HOW THE HELL CAN I TRY AND STOP HER WHEN IM IN THE GRAVEYARD WHEN SHE WAS CONSIDERING GSMETHROWIN FOR ME... AWNYY STOPPED HER, SHE DIDNT GAMETHROW NEITHER OF US DESERVE THESE PUNISHMENTS. THIS HAPPENED IN ONE GAME, ONE GAME AND IT WAS RESOLVED AFTERWARDS SO THERE WAS NOTHING TO STOP BEDAUSE SHE DID NOT GAMETHROW AND I DID NOT CHEST AND I WON MY TROPHT FWIR AND SQUARE.
over 9 years
YOU SAY "GAMES" THIS WAS IN ONE SINGLE, ONE SINGLE GAME THAT SHE DIDNT EVEN GAMETHROW IN, SHE ENDED UP VOTING HER FOS. HOW RHE HELL CAN TOU TAKE AWAY RHE 40+ GAMES THAT I WON BECAUSE OF ONE GAME RHE SISNT EVEN GET GAMETHROWN.
over 9 years
SHE BROKE NO RULES IN MY FAVOUR, SHE CONSIDERED, CONSIDERED GAMETHROWINF BUT THEN AWNYY STOPPED HER. HOW THE HELL CAN YOU PUNISH ME FOR SOMEONE CONSIDERING GAMETHROWING FOR ME, AND HOW CAN YOU PUNISH HER FOR CONSIDERING TO GAMETHROW.
over 9 years
CAN YOU REALLY TAKE AWAY THE 40+ GAMES THAT I WON FAIRLY BECAUSE OF ONE GAME THAT SOMEONE CONSIDERED GAMETHROWING FOR ME IN LIKE SCTUALLY WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING. WHY IS IT UNFAIR FOR ME TO PKAY WITH HYDRA WHO I WENT 5-0-5 WITH, HOW MUCH IMPACT DID THIS ONE GAME REALLY HAVE, EVEN IF MINECRAFT HAD NOT CONSIDERED GAMETHROWING FOR ME IT WAS A MAFIA WON GAME ANYWAY BECAUSE AWNYY WAS IN A 3 WAY NO CLEARS AND HE DOESNT SUCK. THIS HAD LITERALLY NO IMPACT IN WHETHER I TROPHIED OR NOT. I PLACED SECOND FAIR AND SQUARE.
over 9 years
THERE WAS ON GAME WHERE SHE CONSIDERED PKAYING TOWARDS MY WIN CONDITION WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT, SHE CONSIDERING PLAYING TOWARDS IT AND THEN DIDNT EVEN GAMETHROW BECAUSE AWNYY TOLD HER NOT TO HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE PASTEBIN AND MY EXPLINATION FOR IT.
over 9 years
Okay, so after a vote from the mod team. And it was a very close vote. We decided that even though we don't think you both roleshared, we feel as though Minecraft played in your favor in a few games and ultimately broke the rules in your favor. Now, because of her age and how she acts, we've PM'd her personally explaining how what she did was not right when she said blatant things like: is blatant playing against her win condition. Even if you did not tell her to do this, it isn't fair to the other people in the round to have someone play so much into your win condition in these games.

Now, as the punishment for this we have decided the following: Suspending both of you from the current round. We have decided against banning you from the lobby as there isn't enough proof that you asked her to do these things. Even if you didn't ask her to (1/2)
over 9 years
(2/2) do these things, it was very apparent that she was only joining games not caring if she won, but if you won. Knowing this, you should have tried to stop her since you admitted you two are friends. Furthermore we have decided to give Minecraft a cheating violation, so she learns her lesson, but she will not be lobby banned either. I hope that you use this situation as a lesson that if you see someone blatantly playing towards your win condition, you either: 1.) Ask them to stop doing so. 2.) Stop playing with them.
over 9 years
Can someone please explain to me why I am suspended. I haven't cheated, I have broken no rules. What. The. Hell.
over 9 years
Denial that doesn't even make sense. Also in one of the games when she says its 12:33 or something and she needs to go to bed I realise we have a similar Timezone. Denial you can't just act like you have any idea what you are talking about when A) you clearly haven't read the pastebin and B) you don't.
over 9 years
in conclusion: it looks like they became friends through some cult the killer games played shortly before the round started. its questionable that is enough 'friendship' for them to start meta reading eachother and for minecraft to actually want to throw for shrub

yeah, they probably cheated. i'd feel bad if the kid was legitimately a 14 year old girl just wanting to play some epicmafia.com, but the names pretty "obscure" enough that some banned user thought up of it

also, who the f says FTW anymore?

pretty sure the last time ive seen that used was a decade ago, when they wouldve been 4

you can ignore this last part, i may just not be hip wit it
over 9 years
i just don't really get the timing of the games

2 days into the round, you have your first 2 games, after another 2 days, another game or so, several days after like 3-4 games

you're usually playing around the 4:00-6 am (servertime) play range

then suddenly theres this game at 11:22 pm server time where minecraft expresses she wants shrub to win:
https://epicmafia.com/game/4999166/review

the game vegges and i don't get why she doesnt follow shrub into https://epicmafia.com/game/4999176/review that starts right after that game closes (funny enough he loses the next 2 games)

BTW, reviewing a few of their games minecraftgirl outted the time zone she lived in which is why the 11:22 pm game was pretty puzzling to me. also most of the games where they actually did not play with shrub were around this time period
over 9 years
I would like the chance to actually talk to the people making the decision so i can explain why they are making the wrong decision.
over 9 years
I've heard that I'm going to be suspended from the round from mine because you believe i won my games unfairly, i would like to have a skype conversation with the moderator who made this decision - or with the group who made this decision because I am not happy with this as i have done nothing wrong.
over 9 years
The thing is, Meta abuse cannot really exist because meta is easily faked and you are taking a risk metareading someone anyway.

Also not all of the tr's and sr's on minecraft were meta based, it just came into it a lot because of how naturally scummy she is. I'm sure most people meta read new players who are scummy af but are probably just bad town, is this meta abuse? because its certainly more meta than i used here tbh
over 9 years
Oh and according to coll i "automatically tr'd minecraft" I don't think I've ever done that in any game, but feel free to prove me wrong.
over 9 years
Eta read them when you have established meta on them?

I don't think you can ban me or take a trophy away for meta reading someone who I happen to play with often..
Honestly me meta reading mine had very little to do with a lot of my wins as well, it just made some of them a little easier. Most of the games mine was town in were reasonably easily won games (aside from the ones that I mis hammered in obviously - but then meta reading didn't change that at all so it's irrelevant).

Especially since I have knowing fully don't anything wrong, I've just hosted games and read the people in them using what I have to win. If that's cheating then the rules need to be explained better...
over 9 years
I responded to your post on the forum about that but I forgot to press post and left for work.


I think it's better to respond here to meta abuse claims since it's not going to get lost. This is what Guru said
Not meta, meta abuse. Almost every single game minecraftfangirlftw played this round was in you, and there is a screencap of her saying that you called her to play. If you play with somebody almost exclusively it is going to be looked at. I don't think you did anything bad on purpose, but I definitely think it is fishy that minecraftfangirlftw played almost every game with you[/quote

Firstly that screen cap was completely out of context. She had posted in the lobby comments saying "I'm done playing ranked" or something like that too which I responded with "what about shrink the cult". I then hosted a comp game which she joined.

She is not the person I have played with the most, that's Hydra firstly. I don't think it's meta abuse to have someone join your games and m
over 9 years
Shrub, I don't think anybody thinks you did something wrong on purpose, but the mods are trying to decipher if you meta abused with minecraftfangirlftw
over 9 years
I'm not letting the moderators f this up @soda
deletedover 9 years
Lol at the wall of shrub.
over 9 years
@Coll, she only considered playing towards my win condition in one of those games, and she didn't end up doing so because Awnyy stopped her. There was nothing for me to stop since it had already been stopped. I was in graveyard at the time man
over 9 years
I made literally exactly the same meta reads on specifically Megami, but also to some degree qeSuited and xJuicy as they played with me in most of these games. (Hydra too, but i pretty much always just scumread him)
over 9 years
So overall, in 80% of the games in the pastebin there is literally 0 evidence of cheating and in one of them Minecraft wants to gamethrow but doesnt. There is absolutely no reason for me to be punished, and i dont think she should be too (considering she didnt actually gamethrow, only wanted too). If that explanation isn't sufficient then the mod team are useless.

Also, if you think i can only win by cheating what about all my other games where i still had a good win ratio. I was 5-0-5 or something with Hydra for example. I have never lost to a lot of people, but you dont suspect me of cheating with them????

The fact that i still won many games without minecraft being in them shows that i have the skill to deserve a trophy, and my explanations for everything are very valid.

If any punishment is given it should be a gamethrowing NOTE to minecraft for this game https://epicmafia.com/game/4999779/review