2020 candidates

errorover 7 years ago

pick your poison

and keep the discussion civil please

Poll
i'm a big fan of
bernie 'bernard' sanders41%30
elizabeth 'lizard' warren16%12
donald 'the don' trump16%12
pete 'al neuman' buttigieg9%7
andrew 'secretly white' yang5%4
tulsi 'tryhard' gabbard4%3
cory 'identity crisis' booker2%2
joe 'cryptofascist' biden1%1
kamala 'calamity' harris1%1
marianne 'everybody gets a car' williamson1%1
moonunitabout 7 years ago
The following is a 'rap' that was 'rapped' by a Fox News personality during the most recent new years eve special. It's beautiful and I'll never forget it.

I'm from Vermont.
I take what I want.
I'm a commie.
Go cry to your mommy.
MeetTerryabout 7 years agoedited
error
her history of supporting hindu nationalists abroad doesn't necessarily gas me up, either
I love u, it genuinely warms my heart seeing you again
errorabout 7 years ago
MeetTerry
error
gabbard seems like the only one who's ready to address and confront the military-industrial complex but no one will give her enough play. i want an anti-war candidate more than anything.
she contends that ISIS/ISIL and the Syrian rebels are no different. she also pushed the conspiracy that assad didn't use chemical weapons.

she had pretty anti-lgbt and anti-abortion beliefs until she ran for a democrat seat

she supports a lot of the bad domestic policies, similar to bernie
her history of supporting hindu nationalists abroad doesn't necessarily gas me up, either
MeetTerryabout 7 years ago
error
gabbard seems like the only one who's ready to address and confront the military-industrial complex but no one will give her enough play. i want an anti-war candidate more than anything.
she contends that ISIS/ISIL and the Syrian rebels are no different. she also pushed the conspiracy that assad didn't use chemical weapons.

she had pretty anti-lgbt and anti-abortion beliefs until she ran for a democrat seat

she supports a lot of the bad domestic policies, similar to bernie
errorabout 7 years ago
gabbard seems like the only one who's ready to address and confront the military-industrial complex but no one will give her enough play. i want an anti-war candidate more than anything.
spaceabout 7 years ago
MeetTerry
space
more and more, i've really fallen in love with mayor pete. he more than any other candidate feels like an answer and remedy to trump, not just a counter. he's very level headed, educated but doesn't have an obnoxious air about it, definitely informed on a lot of issues i care about, and his demeanor felt like a soothing vaporub massage in that congested a** debate. i definitely think he needs to put more work into how he addresses race and includes it in his platform. i worry, of course, about his electability especially after he got the full smackdown by mr. colorado but i'm fully charmed by mayor booty.
I am pleasantly surprised that we have somehow aligned on something for once
#growth
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MeetTerryabout 7 years ago
space
more and more, i've really fallen in love with mayor pete. he more than any other candidate feels like an answer and remedy to trump, not just a counter. he's very level headed, educated but doesn't have an obnoxious air about it, definitely informed on a lot of issues i care about, and his demeanor felt like a soothing vaporub massage in that congested a** debate. i definitely think he needs to put more work into how he addresses race and includes it in his platform. i worry, of course, about his electability especially after he got the full smackdown by mr. colorado but i'm fully charmed by mayor booty.
I am pleasantly surprised that we have somehow aligned on something for once
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spaceabout 7 years ago
having skimmed this thread i really feel like summa y'all need to read up on ronald reagan.
spaceabout 7 years agoedited
i entered this cycle pretty ready to root for bernie sanders but over the past few months he's just turned into the guy i wouldn't mind voting for in the general.

his campaign sorta devolved into this really dreadful, angry, finger-pointing (and wagging, per his trademark) mess and i'm not here for it. i remember before entering the race he said he would only enter if he felt there weren't better candidates. i really feel like he entered prematurely. i also feel like he believes his platform is still radical: it is not. most democrats have since adopted a LOT of his ideas and they've become central to this election cycle. his performance at the debate sorta solidified my belief that he really believes only he can be a good nominee/president. in a weird irony, it sorta just feels like he's become a left-wing mirror to trump.

his closing remark at the debates was especially laughable: the idea that the problem was that nothing was changing or could change without him. everything DID change because of him but they've also evolved without him and also it feels kinda crazy for him to just sweep his arm across the stage he was on and act like he was standing around a bunch of wealthy moderate white guys. not that kamala harris or cory booker are agents of change in the slightest, that's an uncle tom and an aunt tammy if i ever saw one.


more and more, i've really fallen in love with mayor pete. he more than any other candidate feels like an answer and remedy to trump, not just a counter. he's very level headed, educated but doesn't have an obnoxious air about it, definitely informed on a lot of issues i care about, and his demeanor felt like a soothing vaporub massage in that congested a** debate. i definitely think he needs to put more work into how he addresses race and includes it in his platform. i worry, of course, about his electability especially after he got the full smackdown by mr. colorado but i'm fully charmed by mayor booty.
MeetTerryabout 7 years ago
waiting
MeetTerryabout 7 years ago
that was your opening to start one: let's start an easy one on the nationwide $15 wage

if someone isn't willing to change their mind on the minimum wage issue after talking with them, then it's pretty indicative how other discussions are gonna go.
shayneismynameabout 7 years ago
You don't really seem interested in having a discussion.
MeetTerryabout 7 years ago
sure, been having pretty good discussion on these types of policies on /r/BadEconomics as an armchair economist
shayneismynameabout 7 years agoedited
MeetTerry
shayneismyname
Then why have his policy proposals been picked up by most of the people currently in the race?
are you another /r/s4p user?

his polling numbers have been eaten away at by warren

he only seems prominent because he ran against hilldawg and seemed "woke" with his policies.

it's not adopting - it's to literally pander and not be out-done by another candidate. which is why we got democrat candidates promising free abortions to trans women which makes no sense
Can we have a legitimate like non-meme-y non hyperbole dialogue that doesn't involve telling people to "off themselves?"
MeetTerryabout 7 years ago
shayneismyname
Then why have his policy proposals been picked up by most of the people currently in the race?
are you another /r/s4p user?

his polling numbers have been eaten away at by warren

he only seems prominent because he ran against hilldawg and seemed "woke" with his policies.

it's not adopting - it's to literally pander and not be out-done by another candidate. which is why we got democrat candidates promising free abortions to trans women which makes no sense
shayneismynameabout 7 years ago
MeetTerry
error
moonunit
Never trust the (EM) polls. I don't think Bernie is your guy.
he's definitely not wowing me right now
course not, he's a washed out candidate who only seems important because he finished second in a two-horse race

anyone who thinks he's a "different" kind of politician should sincerely off themselves because he'd be assuming the presidency at age 80. that's just garden-variety shite.

he's a bum that never had a real job til age 40 and has never passed meaningful legislation. everything he proposes is poorly researched. it's all a purity test
Then why have his policy proposals been picked up by most of the people currently in the race?
MeetTerryabout 7 years ago
error
moonunit
Never trust the (EM) polls. I don't think Bernie is your guy.
he's definitely not wowing me right now
course not, he's a washed out candidate who only seems important because he finished second in a two-horse race

anyone who thinks he's a "different" kind of politician should sincerely off themselves because he'd be assuming the presidency at age 80. that's just garden-variety shite.

he's a bum that never had a real job til age 40 and has never passed meaningful legislation. everything he proposes is poorly researched. it's all a purity test
MeetTerryabout 7 years ago
Psy
ill take this post at face value but a large percentage of minorities, namely african-americans, place themselves on the middle of the spectrum.
MeetTerryabout 7 years ago
sank you know I fking love you to death but your support for bernie kills me everytime

the man was promising so many free things that he was running out of breath
MeetTerryabout 7 years ago
Buttigieg is the only candidate that gave me sensible policies

His answer on paying for college was pretty good. He did claim he supported a $15 national minimum wage (again, what a hilariously dumb idea) although that's more pandering to the far left.

His carbon tax and dividends was excellent.

all in all, I found my next candidate
shayneismynameabout 7 years ago
Liberal Democrats Ruled the Debates. Will Moderates Regain Their Voices?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/29/us/politics/2020-democrats.html
Psyabout 7 years agoedited
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errorabout 7 years ago
i'll certainly find myself vacillating between him and liz in the months leading up
errorabout 7 years ago
moonunit
Never trust the (EM) polls. I don't think Bernie is your guy.
he's definitely not wowing me right now
moonunitabout 7 years ago
Never trust the (EM) polls. I don't think Bernie is your guy.