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I quit Epicmafia

over 6 years

I didn't try to make a clickbait title but it's exactly what I plan on doing. The goal of this topic isn't to be interesting or to start drama, I actually plan on locking this thread after I make it. My goals for making this is going to be stated in the 3rd paragraph.

If you don't care about me or about a player leaving epicmafia, I wouldn't recommend reading this. Also I should note that I'm making this assuming that the reader doesn't know about events recent of me posting this topic.

I'm not sure if I plan on quitting forever, but I told myself I'd be quitting for at least 2 years. I might come back sooner if I have some reasoning to. Like if some how I got a IRL conversation about mafia and it'd lead to this site or something of that sort.

I'm making this, not to spread drama, but just to satisfy me and to have the link to the topic on my profile. The reasoning behind putting this topic on my profile is so if any player that quit or got banned that liked me wanted to know why I wasn't on and if I plan on getting on, they'll know. And just as a goodbye to Epicmafia in general.

As for the reasonings I'm quitting, I'll start out with the fact that all of my more liked players have all quit or just got banned. And considering this entire game is about interacting with other people for information. It's tiring playing this game when I'm not really finding joy in the game because there is no one I like in said game. And for the longest time, I haven't found players that played consistently that I liked. Not saying that I hate people or that I don't like you. I could like you but you might not play with you often.

Another reason why I quit is because I find the report system annoying. Having to practically play a game of mafia to decide whether you played correctly in a game of mafia is actually more frustrating that I'd ever imagine. I'm not going to victimize myself by saying "My reports are always handled wrong", but I believe everyone can agree that there is typically always someone getting punished in the reports for better or worse.

Although, these feelings were with me for a long time, it took until recently for me to decide to quit the site for at least 2 years. There were 2 obvious triggers that happened to caused me to decide to quit. I should note though, the reasoning why I'm quitting isn't because of the triggers but because the 2 build ups that I talked about on paragraphs 5-6. Also I should note that these are more stories than anything so if you don't care, skip the next 2 paragraphs.

The first trigger I had was when I actually decided to pointfarm for once in a while. And I'm not talking about host reverse mafia and play brain dead. I mean actual, kudo the mafia, pointfarm. Although it didn't actually start out like that. I'm going to do a long story short but I met a guy who joined a game of solo mafia run (search it up). It was a 5 player set up at the time. We played for a while. But after a longer while, we couldn't get the games to fill fast. So he suggested we host a 4 man set up. After playing 3 set ups that were some weird 3 way set ups or literal point farms, we found a set up named Who is the Puppet. I decided I liked the set up because it was fun to NL d1 and see what the mafia planned on claiming d2 and what the scenarios were. Although it was slightly townsided because of doctor, I had a lot of fun. Later, 2 people joined the set up. We played I think around 2-3 legit games, and then one of them said that we should pointfarm this. I actually liked the entire table and I didn't feel like being the vote saying we shouldn't pointfarm so I decided to do so. I also feel like pointfarming is relaxing so I kinda wanted to do it myself. After literally 20 games of filling the entire screen, a mod joined and told us to stop pointfarming and shut down the game. I actually wanted to play it legitly since I liked the set up so I tried hosting the set up 50 billion times until he joined, and then requested to play the set up. He agreed and then I felt like everything was going to be perfect again. That'd we'd play the set up again with the same table and have fun. Then another mod joined and suggested that the set up itself was a pointfarm. I declined it and gave examples of how it's not. The mod didn't care and shut down every game like the previous mod. After us going back and forth about it being a pointfarm, he ended up blacklisting the set up for being a pointfarm. Then something very funny happened the next day. I was planning on making this exact topic, but then, I saw someone with a miku avi. Call me dumb, but I just used that as motivation to play this game more. And that was the entire reason why I didn't make this and quit the game at that time.

The second trigger was during a report, I felt like was OGI. For the sake of this not turning into a complaint, I'm going to act like both sides were correct, even though I strongly feel that the points I made were correct and shattered any counter argument. Simply put, a game happened and during the game someone said things that I believe, and others pointed out to be, was OGI. I ended up reporting the person and when the first moderator took care of the report, they no vioed it. I felt strongly about this report because I believe OGI is the worst rule to break. As it brings no fun to either side and is just there to win without fun. So I went through the trouble of sending a appeal, even though I'm typically too lazy to send 1st reports in the first place unless it seems cut and dry, and explained why I felt like it was OGI and should be vioed. I wanted to make sure this would stick and I knew the moderators don't typically deal with OGI so I tried to remind them what it was. Spoiling the obvious ending to this, my appeal gets denied. But this didn't trigger me because it didn't get appealed. It triggered me because the moderation team seemed lazy to me about the entire report just because they felt they were right. One moderator didn't really engage in any of the arguments that I set up and another moderator just out right ignored all the points I set up. This left me very annoyed. Because I felt ignored after I tried so hard to do what I believed was the right thing. That was alongside of the salt that brings when your reports get denied, but at this point I was used to it. I didn't want to start drama with this. But for whoever is curious enough to follow look at the story itself, here is a link to follow. https://epicmafia.com/report/244414

I don't blame anyone for me leaving, as I don't believe any one person had any major impact on me leaving. I hope the epicmafia enjoys the fact that I'm leaving the game. Only reason why I would even think that is because I felt, as of recently, is because I feel the more active players don't enjoy my type of play.

I should probably directly apologize to Bookkeeper. Because I feel that, after he got unbanned, he would look forward to playing games with me. But he probably won't be able to do so since I quit.

For anyone who wants to play games outside of epicmafia, I maybe plan on really getting into Osu and I'm currently in Street Fighter V. My username in Osu is Sevenateyou and my username in Street Fighter V is Sevenateyou_PC. If anyone wants to add me on discord, I'm not 100% used to discord yet, but I believe what you need to add me is Seven ate you#3813. My steam account username, following the obvious pattern, is Seven ate you.

After getting all of that off my chest, I can now say, goodbye epicmafia. And thank you to all the friends I made on this website. I should probably note that I'm not even going to browse this website after making this topic and putting it on my profile. So don't bother trying to contact me outside of discord.

EDIT: fixed something I remembered last minute after posting this