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Abusive moderators: The facts

deletedabout 7 years

Hello everyone, it's me again. As you know, I do everything in order to ensure fairness for us, the players, that give this entire website an actual sense.

There are many threads like this talking about all kinds of bullsh*t, so I thought: "Hey, let's make a thread that actually covers the hard facts!"

In my opinion, moderators who do clearly not enforce the rules correctly and still don't do it after they've been told their mistake are a disgrace and liability to the website as the rules cannot be taken seriously as a result.

------ GT violations given wrong
------ Case 1:
https://epicmafia.com/report/232463

Player dzanek1143 was given a violation for fake-claiming carolled D1. Seems like he was breaking a rule, wasn't he? No. Quote from the rules page at https://epicmafia.com/lobby/rules:

"Game Throwing
Intentionally playing against your win condition or not playing to win. Includes fake claims made for any other purpose than strategy as well as voting someone based on a grudge."

He did not intentionally play against his win condition, he tried to get reads by that fake-claim, thus being a strategy - even if a failed one. The moderator charley does clearly not know how to correctly enforce the game-throwing rule. It does not matter whether it was "corruption" or "being bad" - this moderator should not be a moderator. Period.

------ Case 2:
https://epicmafia.com/report/231445

Player jontytt was too given a violation for fake-claiming a power role D1. Was he breaking a rule? Again no, since the rules clearly state that one must do it intentionally and not because he tried to pull off a smart strategy. Jontytt was a nice guy when he joined and now he's all grumpy. Why? Because of you bad moderators. And he is not the only one who become grumpy, a lot of people did (especially new players!).

I warn you. Many many people will get to hate you in the future if you do not change your habits concerning reports and giving violations. If you are moderator of this website, you are required to enforce their rules AS SPECIFIED AT https://epicmafia.com/lobby/rules.

Thanks for listening. If this doesn't change soon, I will create an own mafia website. Simple, modern looks, smart rules and no stupid moderators enjoying their fame whilst doing their job completely wrong.

MarcellDavis out.

deletedabout 7 years
Bebop is a cuck. Yw
Bebop
about 7 years

OP says

If this doesn't change soon, I will create an own mafia website.


good luck
Bebop
about 7 years
CTRL + F
"Bebop"
no matches

hehe gg boys
KRaidium
about 7 years
jontytt is a straight up throwing account, he should just be banned at this point
maite03
about 7 years
also who goes out of their way to write a pastebin on a game where they actually threw? lol
maite03
about 7 years
yeah i don't see an intent to throw in either case.

however, jontytt is a self-proclaimed toss alt who says "i'm going to throw this game and if i get reported i'll say i was joking about it" so as a mod i probably wouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt
deletedabout 7 years
The biggest flaw in your argument is that half of the rules are vague enough to swing a report either way depending what the mod thinks. If you want to see a change, first the rules must be updated to have clear examples to where it can't be twisted into mods favor.
deletedabout 7 years
case 2 is defo not GT, the dude retracted instantly
deletedabout 7 years
Both cases no GT. Read the rules AS IS and grow up, honestly...
Jeff
about 7 years
Banned user
deletedabout 7 years
its gt in both cases mannnnnnnnn
deletedabout 7 years
Case 1 is GT

Case 2 should've been no vio
deletedabout 7 years
well well well
deletedabout 7 years

Soluciones says

case 2: same thing, different purpose. his strategy this time was to gain trust from others to hammer, when the other person doesnt want to roleswap, you stop it bc u aint anyone to force others to play by ur rules when u come to em to have fun.


he did retract. . instantly too
deletedabout 7 years
What's your age? I can't believe you are so stubborn. Of course one is responsible for doing a risky strategy, BUT THE RULES ALLOW HIM TO DO SO WITHOUT SUFFERING FROM A GAMETHROWING VIOLATION.

Whats so hard to understand about that lmao? From now on, please write me a private message if you want to discuss about this matter.
deletedabout 7 years
strategies dont have life for themselves. someone plays a strategy, that someone is responsible for it.
deletedabout 7 years

Soluciones says

case 1: when playing a highrisk highreward strat you know a big con of playing by that strat is possibly getting town fked badly, which would result in a game throwing action. so when you play risky strats that can have disastrous outcomes, then you mustnt disagree if it goes wrong and u get a gt vio.


The rules state that _strategies_ are an exception to that rule. According to them, dzanek should have never received a violation. You must not interpret the rules your own way, otherwise you are always going to have a mess as big as of today.


Soluciones says

case 2: same thing, different purpose. his strategy this time was to gain trust from others to hammer, when the other person doesnt want to roleswap, you stop it bc u aint anyone to force others to play by ur rules when u come to em to have fun.



Nobody's at fault for this case. It was just a strategy gone wrong, nothing else. People need to be forgiving mistakes, jesus christ...
deletedabout 7 years
case 2: same thing, different purpose. his strategy this time was to gain trust from others to hammer, when the other person doesnt want to roleswap, you stop it bc u aint anyone to force others to play by ur rules when u come to em to have fun.
deletedabout 7 years
case 1: when playing a highrisk highreward strat you know a big con of playing by that strat is possibly getting town fked badly, which would result in a game throwing action. so when you play risky strats that can have disastrous outcomes, then you mustnt disagree if it goes wrong and u get a gt vio.
PhoenixDood
about 7 years
*drops mic*