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Probability Problem 2

about 7 years

There are 4 strong teams and 4 weak teams, in a cup quarterfinals draw.

A "derby" is a game between 2 strong teams.

If the draw is conducted totally randomly, what are the odds that, out of the 4 pairs, no derby occurs?

(This is not for school or something, just you may solve it if you want for your own pleasure/training.)

about 7 years
This is why I don't major in math
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Jesus Christ.
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Solution 1:

Suppose that the first team from the first pair is weak. (odd: 0.5) If this happens, the other team MUST be strong, or a derby will occur in another pair (if the other team is weak, then 4 strong teams will have to be allocated in 3 pairs, which means that at least 1 pair will have 2 strong teams - pigeonhole principle). The odds for this is 4/7. Now, if the first team is strong (odd: 0.5) the other team MUST be weak (or we have a derby), in an odd of 4/7.

If the 4/7 odd happens, 3 strong and 3 weak teams remain for 3 pairs.

Doing this all the time, the total odds are:

(4/7) * (3/5) * (2/3) = 0.228

Solution 2:

We have to arrange 8 teams, in 4 pairs of 2, in which no derby occurs.

The total number of ways to arrange the 8 teams is 8 factorial, or 8! (n! = 1*2*...*n).

Since every strong team has to go in a pair among 1 and 4, and they can be either the first team of the pair or the second one, we have 4! (the ways that the 4 strong teams can be between the 4 pairs), multiplied by 4! (the ways the 4 weak teams can be between the 4 pairs), multiplied by 2^4 (the ways that every strong team can be either first or second in a pair).

In total, this gives

(2^4)*(4!)*(4!)/(8!) = 0.228
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I win
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The correct answer is indeed 576/2520. Boo has got it right.

There will be given two complete solutions for the problem tomorrow, around 1PM - 2PM eastern american time.
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(4!)^2/8!
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am i misinterpreting the question? its asking the probability that two strong teams do not get paired together right
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Nope, that's too fair
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is it 576/2520