Wow it's like Scotts opinions did a 180 right after the mission failed. Okay don't put Scott on any missions the other 3 of us are town and if no one cc's Lelmoo (I'll be shocked) that's 4 so Scum is Scott Jbomb Bryce Ultra
"the reason it makes sense for her to put herself on her mission and fail it is because we were in a fail-fail situation and the fact that we even let it get to that point is disgusting and we deserve to lose at this point"
So you really think she just put herself and three good people on it? Knowing we'd just have to pick one more to get the next two missions and tie it back up when the suspicion inevitably fell on her?
And why do you think she changed from Markus/Flip to you on the mission without really getting more information?
Wow scott that was a lot of words not all I understood but ok... I think the team should include jeff/scott still because i tr both still.
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imo the next mission should not include claire flippo or ultra
and should be jeff/markus/lelmoo/scott like i stated before
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i heavily tr both scott and jeff so i'm 100% in it being claire that failed both missions and i honestly can't believe that certain people (scott) were like "i'm fine to reject until we get to claire's mission!" despite putting us in a lose-lose situation that's embarrassing
jeff's team has been the best team proposed so far and now that i'm certain claire is scum i think bryce is likely town
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it is most certainly not 'both claire and ally' and your logic behind that is abysmal
claire is good at this kinda sh*t and she's not going to make it blatantly obvious by being like "ally is too stupid to be scum" and defend me if i'm her partner
not to mention i've been saying since THE DAMN START that she's scum
the reason it makes sense for her to put herself on her mission and fail it is because we were in a fail-fail situation and the fact that we even let it get to that point is disgusting and we deserve to lose at this point
Oh, one more on why Ultra - If there were indeed two evil on the first mission, it was in our best interest to pick outside that. But in steps Ultra trying to get us to act against that:
Here's why I believe it's both Sonia and Ally - Sonia said two things that really caught my attention, I'll quote them both here:
Something to remember is that Ally and Claire would have already put in opposing cards in the first mission, so if there was an evil Claire could trust to not put the same card in, it was Ally.
Further, Claire as evil is too smart to put herself on a mission with three other good people and then fail it, that's pretty darn close to game suicide. She would have needed to put another evil on it.
Remember how she originally suggested Markus/ Flippo when she was trying to get us to reject to her mission, two people that are generally townreads, and then switched it to Ally? I think if she had said Ally on her team originally, people would have had issues with relying too much on the Bryce/evil read, but she wanted Ally on that team, so she could have two evil but only one fail, basically throwing herself under the bus but allowing us to trust Ally.
Thank you Lelmoo, I did have you as good - though of course someone can cc
Okay so these are my reads - my current belief is that the 4 evil are Sonia, Jbob, Ally and Ultra. Here's why:
Part 1 of ___: First off I'm taking Bryce off the hook. Part of the reason I wanted Sonia's mission is to basically show Bryce as good if it failed. This is based on three assumptions: 1. The original team Bryce made was an intended team 2. Bryce wouldn't want two evil on the same team. 3. Jbob is evil.
If Jbob is evil and Bryce is evil, that means if Bryce didn't want two evils on his original, non-official mission that means Jeff is good. If Bryce didn't want two evils on his second, accepted mission, that means Sonia and Ally are good. Since I'm good and one of Jeff, Sonia and Ally are therefore evil, if these assumptions are correct Bryce cannot be evil. This means either Sonia or Ally failed the first mission.
and before someone says that I'm "obviously a mafia pretending to be Percival" - it wouldn't make sense for me to claim Percival if I wasn't, because a lot of people see me as evil.
For evil I think it makes sense for someone who is mostly seen as a good to claim Percival but idk?
and people who I don't trust are Flippo, Jbomber two of Sonia/Scott/Ultra (although I'm not sure if Sonia would put two evils on a same mission so?)
and also if Sonia is a townie I think then I don't know who's the evil from the first mission so? Oh, and finally idk what Jeff is so ya I'm sorry Scott but these are my half assed reads but its hard when half of the people see me as evil - although it's mostly my own fault.
Can Percival out and give their reads? I know it's gonna make it more likely to find Merlin at the end but we're kinda in desperate times here
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The fact you're trying to say that you'd pass the mission if you were scum literally confirms you're scum, Sonia. Hahahaha you know there's no way scum from mission 1 would pass up the opportunity to be responsible for another failed mission, and set their 3 scum partners up for a near guaranteed win to fail just one more of the three next missions.
I want to call Ally scum but I'm still sure on Bryce being scum who rejected it and set me up to god dam fail so that means the scum was prob in otherscott and jeff but I really have no idea who it would be out of those 2
I'm shocked because people should be able to see how BS this is but all there looking at are things at face value I thought about my team and I was wrong but everyone just dismissing me as scum is a huge mistake I've been called scum the whole game no one is defending me or doing anything so people are saying my team is leaving me out to dry no that doesn't happen I am town and scum are just calling me scum because they know they can get away with it.
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Why are you even pretending to be surprised that you're getting pinned for the double failure Sonia? When you're the common denominator on both missions (besides Ally who you literally put on the mission yourself). Even if you aren't the scum, you still proposed the doomed mission, yet you're going to continue to bash everyone else's reads when you clearly can't get a correct read yourself. Seems a lil bit hypocritical.
Hang the fk on am I srsly getting pinned for this? Are you for real? Why the fk would I fail this as scum when EVERYONE WOULD PIN IT ON ME??? Hello that's dumb as hell I need to think who the scum on my mission was because it was a win win for them to fail it there while if I was scum I have no reason to even fail it cause yall would've tr me if I was scum like THINK FOR A SECOND
