threatening someone with "consequences" for speaking violates their rights, and violates the principle of free speech. by law, sure it isnt illegal unless the government does it and i think her being guilty is pretty much in everyone's interest. but hey f*ck her
I disagree. Even when he would text her happy things (from what we have seen) she would just bring up suicide again. If her intention was to help him realize he had a good life then she's fuc'king moronic because she consistently would bring suicidal talk into their conversations.
There's already been supreme court cases where freedom of speech is restricted when it harms other people. The most common example is yelling "fire!" inside a movie theater when there's really no fire
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I think it's easy to take their last few texts and judge the entire context of the situation, but from what I've read she had tried to help him a number of times. I think she's a bad person, but I think her goal was "Oh my goodness, you are so wonderful, how could I have overlooked everything I have. I don't want to die" and not "dead boyfriend"
I haven't read the article in the OP but from what I've read of this case she seems to be urging him to do it, not really trying to get him to move on from suicidal thoughts and realize he should find joy in life and living.
he backed out of the truck but she told him to get back and do it so yeah that didn't happen
deletedover 7 years
thats what they are arguing in court. and technically it was free speech.
deletedover 7 years
I'm not arguing that she's a good person, I'm arguing that she didn't expect him to do it. I think she wanted him to break down and say that he didn't really want to die.
Maybe I'm wrong, but again, texting a dead lover's phone 80 times is "denial" to me. That seems like an ineffectual "coverup" or "act", and more likely to incriminate than anything.
CONRAD ROY: How was your day? MICHELLE CARTER: When are you doing it? CONRAD: Since you don’t get your snapchat anymore, I sent them to you. CARTER: (Smiley face) My day was okay. How was yours? CONRAD: Good. CARTER: Really? CONRAD: Yes. CARTER: That’s great. What did you do? CONRAD: Ended up going to work for a little bit and then just looked stuff up. CARTER: When are you gonna do it? Stop ignoring the question
i dont think she listened to "this negativity enough" loL
deletedover 7 years
That's probably true, but I don't think she really wanted him to die. I think she was saying "Shut the f.uck up. I've listened to this negativity enough. You're not going to do s.hit."
i don't think she's sociopath but id peg her for narcissistic personality disorder personally or perhaps other personality disorder that craves attention
deletedover 7 years
Believe me, I know. 80 texts to a dead lover's phone screams "denial" to me not "coverup"
It's pretty common to text people or write on their facebook walls after they've died. People who lose loved ones leave voice messages on their s/o's cell phones etc. It's for closure after experiencing a traumatic event.
just because there is no physical action doesnt mean words wont get you in trouble with the court
deletedover 7 years
I think that's the more interesting story, but based on the actual evidence, I don't think she believed he was serious. That makes her cruel, maybe that's even still manslaughter, but I don't think she's some genius sociopath killer.
she was likely in character after his death. receiving lots of support. the texting was probably a big part of the act. she even texted her friends for months about fear of the cops finding out about her involvement. her a$$ was sorry that she got caught
