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Can someone help balance this setup

over 7 years

It's a Dawn setup with two blues, a Surgeon, a Vig, and a Justice for town, a Spy, a Whisperer and a Quack for Mafia. I've played it quite a lot and realized that it's really town-sided in all games I've done with it. I was wondering how to fix this whilst keeping the general feel of the setup (a sorta Out-Doctor of the teams and using sorta uncommon roles.) I've considered adding some maf power players like the enforcer or informant but then I'd need to add some town and I don't want the player count to be unnecessarily large. Any suggestions?

over 7 years
would poisoner be a good option for maf? i was thinking to use it for removing doc from prs but i still don't know
over 7 years
1. what is your target for play on your setup, ie for comp, for casual red heart, for sandbox?

2. all of the town roles are very powerful, while all of the mafia roles have very little power. potential for 2 maf kills as well as a report for d2.

3. like azai says, you probably don't need two of the same roles doing practically the same thing. spy isn't needed because you'll know who quack is anyway. instead, adding in a hooker or another maf heavy role will make it more scumsided.
over 7 years
i wanted to put whisperer in there to cause confusion but spy does that already, i guess
so who would be an alternative for surgeon? i considered nurse but then nurse could role block quack and vig could kill either maf he wants, so would doc be better? also, i do want to switch whisperer with someone, but i've no idea who is the issue
over 7 years
and yes as you can tell i'm not that good at designing setups
over 7 years
also surgeon is op
over 7 years
Plus seeing the fact that it is a Dawn setup, town will insist everyone to nl asap (like how coco's setup works) and it will take time for spy to confirm two mafias who dont share meeting and have whisperer work with spy to keep quack contacted. It is a long hassle and easily exposed
over 7 years
Maybe not have both Spy and Whisperer? What purpose do two mafia who can send anonymous whispers to people help, plus it will be easy to notice who is mafia since there will be two out of three mafias who will be contacting and type less. What I think is that you should swap out Whisperer to a pr mafia role who shares a meeting with the Spy while Quack serves as doc who can be contacted by Spy