Mod Abuse Court

over 7 years

Status

Awating cases

Please PM ideas to me

About

With claims of mod abuse posted multiple times a week, I'd like to provide a method for people to legitimately express their concerns without cluttering the forums and to examine those claims in a fair and unbiased fashion.

Logistics

To suggest a case to be heard, post in this topic or PM to me the name of the mod in question along with a short synopsis of the supposed abuse.

If I decide to hear an case, I will select 5 jury members by interviewing those who have previously volunteered. Jury members will be selected on the basis of being unbiased and creating a diverse overall jury. Jurors remain anonymous until after the case's conclusion and are removed and replaced if they reveal their juror status before then.

With a 5-member jury constructed, I will publicly announce the case here and privately contact the plaintiff and defendant. Each must nominate someone to represent them as an attorney, and (while not advised) they are allowed to nominate themselves. There are no rules as to who may be nominated as an attorney and even an undisclosed alt may be chosen.

With attorneys chosen, I will designate a 24 hour deadline by which the plaintiff must submit their statement to this topic. The defendant will have exactly 24 hours after the submission of the plaintiff's to submit their own statement. Failure to submit a statement by the deadline for either side results in the jury not considering that side's statement.

After the defense posts their statement, the jury will deliberate privately, PMing me their votes within 24 hours. Jury members may not abstain from voting, and failure to send me a vote will be counted as a vote for innocent.

The result of whether the mod has been found guilty or innocent of mod abuse will be posted here and submitted to the admin(s). Failure by the admin(s) to punish a mod in the case of a guilty verdict will likely result in a community riot and angry emails to Lucid, which has precedence for being effective.

Other details:

There is no double jeopardy and there is no higher court to appeal to, meaning all decisions are final.
Mods and admins cannot be jury members.
If I am unable to construct a 5-member jury, I will construct a 3-member jury instead and replace the missing two members with innocent votes.
As always, and jury members will be continuously informed of this, the defense is considered innocent until proven guilty. I hope the logistics of this court demonstrate this philosophy as well.
Potential jury members will not know what the case is about during their interviews.

Past Cases

None

Pro Bono Lawyers

johnreid (Prosecution only)

Jury Volunteers

Post below if you want to volunteer.

Whitepimp007

over 7 years

Sims says

tap me in coach. someone give me nathan's password

isukedarksdik

Sims

over 7 years

tap me in coach. someone give me nathan's password

groundhogday

over 7 years

Please administrate sims

groundhogday

over 7 years

We need a second sims round

groundhogday

over 7 years

Sims will check in at least once a week and make big boy decisions and not get too invested in the mods personally

groundhogday

over 7 years

Sims says

i think the only solution here is to give me complete autonomy over the website

I actually agree

Sims

over 7 years

for the record i don't think lailai has any leg to stand on naming two different people for lucid to admin. telling him to replace the old ones, whatever, but at the end of the day it's lucid's decision who administrates his website

but seriously how do you guys not have contact information for nathan or edark. if the site got hacked you guys are screwed lol

johnreid

over 7 years

I'm not sure what measurable harm lailai has suffered as a result of Lucids alleged negligence.

I shall be eagerly watching this case to find out what he is trying to claim.

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

im sad this court decided not to prosecute lono for his abuses, im still shaking over the incident and has been over a week, yes, maybe i have parkinsons, i should see a doctor

deletedover 7 years

i'm pretty surprised that the care level has gone so low that people don't irritate admins on skype to message lucid to pick a replacement anymore. not one person. wild stuff l

Sims

over 7 years

honestly i guarantee you guys your problem would be solved if one of edark or nathan emails lucid with a replacement, he'll listen to them

message one of the two on skype and ask them to do it and hold out until then

The

over 7 years

If only we had an admin to verify that....

It's fine, though. I just won't use a backup for this case and all future cases will require the potential jurors to pm me their interview answers, which alts can't do.

deletedover 7 years

Court's rigged

deletedover 7 years

Lol kinkajus and mt01 are the same person

Sims

over 7 years

i think the only solution here is to give me complete autonomy over the website

Sims

over 7 years

out of curiosity, did edark and nathan not tell phil who to admin as their replacement? that's always how it's been done?

deletedover 7 years

mangofruit vs philly wangs

Sims

over 7 years

i'll take what johnreid says into account but i'm not sure i'm with the whole duty of care thing, it's a slippery slope

The

over 7 years

johnreid says

I don't mind representing lucid in this case as I believe lailai is actually bringing this case on behalf of the moderators and doesn't speak as one of the epic mafia community.

I would have a preliminary question as to whether lailai can even bring a civil negligence suit against lucid.

The first element to prove negligence would be to prove that lucid in fact owed a duty of care to lailai as an epic mafia user. If the relationship between site creator and site user does not involve a duty of care, there can be no breach and no legitimate suit.

I believe this question is a question for the judge and not a jury.

I would personally argue that lucid owes no duty of care to lailai personally. It is in fact the administrators who owe the duty to epic mafia users and not lucid.

I do not believe this case has grounds to be heard.

Sims has already been chosen as Lucid's attorney, but this public opinion is appreciated and you are certainly welcome to collaborate with Sims on his official statement.

deletedover 7 years

You just triggered a Dangan flashback

expose

over 7 years

johnreid says

I don't mind representing lucid in this case as I believe lailai is actually bringing this case on behalf of the moderators and doesn't speak as one of the epic mafia community.

I would have a preliminary question as to whether lailai can even bring a civil negligence suit against lucid.

The first element to prove negligence would be to prove that lucid in fact owed a duty of care to lailai as an epic mafia user. If the relationship between site creator and site user does not involve a duty of care, there can be no breach and no legitimate suit.

I believe this question is a question for the judge and not a jury.

I would personally argue that lucid owes no duty of care to lailai personally. It is in fact the administrators who owe the duty to epic mafia users and not lucid.

I do not believe this case has grounds to be heard.

johnreid

over 7 years

I don't mind representing lucid in this case as I believe lailai is actually bringing this case on behalf of the moderators and doesn't speak as one of the epic mafia community.

I would have a preliminary question as to whether lailai can even bring a civil negligence suit against lucid.

The first element to prove negligence would be to prove that lucid in fact owed a duty of care to lailai as an epic mafia user. If the relationship between site creator and site user does not involve a duty of care, there can be no breach and no legitimate suit.

I believe this question is a question for the judge and not a jury.

I would personally argue that lucid owes no duty of care to lailai personally. It is in fact the administrators who owe the duty to epic mafia users and not lucid.

I do not believe this case has grounds to be heard.

KinkajusRevenge

over 7 years

Sign me up as a Juror

The

over 7 years

For a class action lawsuit you would need to negotiate with lailai and present the case as such. The case has not gotten very far yet so if lailai wishes to rescind the original court request and turn it into a class action suit then that will be allowed.

johnreid

over 7 years

I demand a trial by combat