over 7 years

Should the USSR come back? Most russians say hell yes, comrade! They want a revival of the socialist system, 1 in 3 do not. It's a pretty accepted survey, and although I belive in self determination and that if u r not a russian, its not ur bussiness if they go back to the ussr, what ur opinion? https://www.thetrumpet.com/13769-more-than-half-of-russians-want-the-soviet-union-resurrected

Should Russia become USSR?
5
Hell no, I S2 Reagan
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Yes, Gorbachev sux
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Want to, but it's impossible rn
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I voted for Bernie, so only social democracy
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Socialism yes, no Soviets
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Whatever they want its ok
over 7 years
the ussr was ravaged by operation barbarossa, their civillian loss is unmatched even by germany more than 1500 towns were destroyed. populations levels took decades to go back to pre war levels, their industrial base wich was in its crushing majority west of the urals, was devasted. but yeah, they were totally like the usa, untouched by war...
over 7 years
Am I being trolled? You're not this stupid for real
over 7 years
i will take that as a compliment
over 7 years
this thread is so mind blowingly stupid it actually annoys me
over 7 years
ussr wanst affected enough by the ww2

i just had a stroke
over 7 years
THE GERMANS WENT PAST MOSCOW DESTROYING EVERYTHING ON THEIR PATH R U MAD??????? THEY LOST MORE MEN THEN EVERYONE ELSE, R U FOR REAL?????
over 7 years
HOLY U DID NOT JUST SAY RUSSIA DIDNT HAVE FACOTIRES BOMBED LOL
over 7 years
Isn't history fun?
over 7 years
You are still incorrectly implying these things were the direct result of socialism. The reason Russia emerged as a global superpower along with the US after WW2 isn't because they were socialist, it was because they were the only Allies whose factories didn't get bombed to sh.it during the war.

All socialism did for Russia was lead to economic stagnation to the point Gorbachev was forced to institute Perestroika, bringing about their collapse.
over 7 years

Antidote says

When you don't understand the difference between correlation and causation, you start thinking socialism sends people into space.


its not at all as if what i meant is that the ussr oversaw a great jump technological development, totally meant is as communism sends ppl to space, its not like the ussr took ppl from abstract poverty, increased literacy and education spending, increased the purchasing power of the avarage russian, and just for kicks, gave the materical conditions that lead the russians to be able to go to space
over 7 years

somethingwhatever says


Antidote says

More than half of Russians don't remember why they lost the Cold War, apparently.


its not like the ussr took a country stuck in feudalism and sent it to space right


When you don't understand the difference between correlation and causation, you start thinking socialism sends people into space.
over 7 years
an update on the soviet comeback, lenin is liked by most, personally i think him like a man with good intentions, corrupted by power an ideological orthodoxy who did great by igniting the revolution and defeating the czar, but naughty things by slaughtering the free territory and giving power to the state instead of people, would give him 6/10
http://www.newsweek.com/lenin-support-peaks-russian-revolution-bolshevik-centennial-586201
over 7 years
i hear trotsky and stalin had a falling out, but dont spread it around
over 7 years
lol ussr gossip
over 7 years

Antidote says

More than half of Russians don't remember why they lost the Cold War, apparently.


its not like the ussr took a country stuck in feudalism and sent it to space right
over 7 years

xxerox says

Socialism wants equal life and pay for all.


So, this means in Socialism you will never get rich, you will have as much money as everyone else and everything will be the same.

Of course, it is another question if you will have the same rights in the law.



Socialist will never success because it is impossible.

People will never be equal because there is always someone in charge. As long as a person in charge exists , he will always be more than every one else, he will always have more power. Socialsm in its purest form is a dream.


sure marxist socialism does do the things u just said, however the idea that is the only socialism that exists is laughable, take democratic federalism for an example, where through means of direct democracy no one has more political power than another, while now only a selected group hold state power as a police officer, the goal is for all citzens to be trained in policing, thus eliminating the monopoly on violence by anyone.
the militias r not used inside the communities and have no authority over civillians. its based on free association and consensus, meaning even if the community said for u to something u didnt want to do you could always leave or indeed refuse. the idea that individuals have power over others on said society is laughable...
over 7 years
More than half of Russians don't remember why they lost the Cold War, apparently.
over 7 years
>imblying socialism/communism is good.
over 7 years
somethingwhatever btfo by xxerox
over 7 years
Socialism wants equal life and pay for all.


So, this means in Socialism you will never get rich, you will have as much money as everyone else and everything will be the same.

Of course, it is another question if you will have the same rights in the law.



Socialist will never success because it is impossible.

People will never be equal because there is always someone in charge. As long as a person in charge exists , he will always be more than every one else, he will always have more power. Socialsm in its purest form is a dream.
over 7 years
plz vote :(
over 7 years
my point exactly, soviets were imperialist, they screwed over ukraine's free territory, plus uk holdomor, WEATHER WAS A MAIN FACTOR, but like the potato famine in ireland, where they had a food surplus that was shipped to foreign markets by the uk policy, soviet policy on ukraine caused a lot of the deaths
over 7 years
As a person living on post-Soviet Union country, I will say that USSR was .
Communism is good though, but I'm not signing up to Russian communism ever again.
over 7 years
over 7 years
Soviets r imperialists, plus, marx sux, bakunin rulz, out with ur red burocracy!