Frankly, the most disgusting thing in this whole debacle is how you assume no one else has experienced loss of any kind just because they are defending Sirp to some extent.
I can't find a single moment in this where I felt even close to losing an argument. I felt wildly misunderstood, yes. Your attempts to make this into a joke and downplay the hurt that someone has felt due to the loss of a loved one is actually cringier than 99% of this thread.
Shame on me for an isolated attack, but infinitely more shame on you for speaking out on a situation that you aren't within light years of having an understanding on. Talk to any psychologist or anyone who has heavily studied the stages of grief and the human mind and see if even one of them would ever support your words here. No one that is knowledgeable in the human mind will ever tell you that counseling a grieving person that their actions in response to a traumatic event is okay. Not one.
Have some pain in your privileged life and then get back to me. It's always the people who have never experienced certain tragedies that are the first to want to judge others for their reactions to a situation foreign to them.
Yes ban me from the lobby for being hurt and going through stages of grief in reaction to someone using death as a means to an end of vengeance. The fact that you say you're even having to defend that isn't something you should use as a way to defend yourself, but rather proof that the mods for this lobby are nearing braindead.
Pretty sure that what I said was that a report had been filed about you because people had felt uncomfortable about your actions. I said in Skype that although I do not like you and think that you do nothing for the lobby, you didn't deserve to get banned because what you said was not bad enough imo. Do you think that that is unfair to say? I don't think I made any personal attacks; like I said, my problem with you FUNDAMENTALLY is not that you're angry at SirP or that you dislike him after the event, it's you striking below the belt.
I am very glad that you're stepping away from those attacks because that's a step in the right direction. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I misread your intentions, but nowhere in any of your posts did you make any indication that your goal of this post was not to make SirP feel bad about himself longterm. What IS the end goal then for you? What do you hope to accomplish?
Finally, I think that if I did not have integrity, I'd totally ban you because quite honestly, I really don't like you, but guess what, I'm actually arguing that you shouldn't!
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And in case you didn't see my third or fourth post in the thread, I came back to Earth. I regrouped. I found my closure. Making the thread WAS my closure so how can you ever tell me that this thread was fruitless and unnecessary if it WAS MY CLOSURE? Your closure is not someone else's. Disgusting to assume something like that.
On the flip side, Sirp finally is getting acknowledged as a person instead of the irrelevant murmur he usually is - and hates being so much.
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HardCarry it's appalling that you are trying to make me calling out someone for faking their death as the same thing as someone faking their death to make others feel bad.
Yo I got given shet by like 15 people when that thread came out, and I was like "But it's bull" and you guys were saying it was insensitive or whatever, because you were putting your feelings before the facts. Then when it comes out that it was complete bullcrap, you're the ones putting your feelings out again. You literally don't even know this guy anymore than your local starbucks worker, and people across the globe die by the second, I think everyone should learn to control their feelings a bit more, and not letting things like the lies upset them.
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I don't think you've ever dealt with grief or loss before in your life if you can't understand that people's first reaction when dealing with it is lashing out. How dare you talk about how something that isn't closure for YOU can't be closure for someone else. These are scenarios where you let someone lash out and the perpetrator ACCEPTS THAT THEIR ACTIONS HURT OTHERS and they TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. Blaming someone for lashing out when they were personally affected by something is appalling. He deserved me lashing out and letting him know that it was disgusting and he should have to take that from ANYONE he made have to relive traumatic experiences. In retrospect, the one who lashed out almost always regroups and realizes THEIR mistakes but that should never invalidate or make wrong their reaction to something vile. Your response is appalling. Trying to take a calm and collected approach at someone who is hurt in attempt to make them regret being hurt is despicable.
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I understand that he apologized. I understand that people reprimanded him. I understand that from his point of view and others that this is "all taken care of". For me I think it's something deeper. I wanted to give my piece so I did. It's not to destroy him, but rather my own speaking out. Coming at me because I wanted to say my part is not only wrong but wholly misunderstanding how humans work. We all have different reactions and opinions to everything and just because one person is done doesn't mean a public crucifixion of someone else who frankly thinks that death is more serious than a "lol sorry". Don't act as if you can sympathize if this didn't hurt you to the core and bring back PTSD issues. I responded innapropriately by mocking his sexuality, but in no way did I respond in a way that would make it acceptable for you to come even close to saying that I am becoming the person that I am showing that I detest. Stop putting words together that you think sound nice without considering what you are actually saying.
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Your flaw is in saying that I want him to feel terrible about himself as a long term aftermath. I clearly have said he should feel terrible about what he did and that was my intent. I already said my personal attacks were unnecessary visceral reactions, yet you have chosen to ignore that and instead use it as a strawman in order to have a way to continue your hypocritical preaching. Putting words in my mouth while protesting that what I did was terrible is only making you lose your integrity, when you and I both know why you are hypocritical here.
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In other news I don't know how you can write that post and feel good about your post considering the things you have said offsite about me in the past 24 hours. Don't stand on a soapbox to speak out against hypocrisy and then retreat to your own backbiting of me in private. That's an integrity issue.
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Yes my goal is to make him feel terrible about his decisions you are absolutely correct. Lmfao
I think that we both agree and really everyone in this lobby agrees that what Serp did is f*cked up. I personally even sympathize with your anger towards him. However, what I had a problem with is when you started to use personal insults about his sexuality. Just because you were angry at SirP does not mean that your comments towards him at the beginning of this thread were justified.
However, at the end of the day, I don't think this thread really is bringing us to any sort of closure. What is the intention of this thread? To make SirP feel bad about himself? I think that he already knows what he did is bad; a lot of people have told him in the last 48 hours, but most people didn't feel the need to make a thread about it and post inflammatory comments about him.
I urge you to consider the repercussions of your actions; if I were a family relative of SirP who received a message about SirP faking his own death, I know that I certainly would be following the forums. The end goal should not be to make SirP feel even worse about himself, but to help him get to a position where he knows to not do it again without unnecessarily attacking/shaming him.
Finally, I'd like to draw your attention to this quote.
I think that you're coming close to becoming the person that you are criticizing because to me, it seems like your goal is to make SirP "feel terrible about their decisions" and this thread is more for attention than to help him (especially since in the original thread, you had expressed your doubts about SirP's death. You weren't one of the people who thought he was dead).
Fake dead guy
