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over 7 years

Since i am fed up with this too :

Codes should be considered OGI.

It is virtually impossible to win a game when there are codes involved (Disguiser can't disguise. Templar will immediately prove himself)

I understand guise testing, but codes are extremely game breaking . . .

So why not finally fix it ?

over 7 years
Will bump it next time STBS is added. Codes should die.
over 7 years
bump
over 7 years
I want to bring this thread up since SBTS is added yet again.

I don't want people to use codes to clear themselves. That is clearly an unfair advantage.
over 7 years
guiser is simply not a competitive role and guiser games should never ever be comped. it's a fun little gimmick role for when youre playing with your friends but it really is not a role for a serious game.
over 7 years

yoyo200900 says


xxerox says

Lets see... Yoyo - 1st place - 34 times played the setup.

Jabzz - 2nd place - 22 times played the setup

for those 2 to have so many points, they have to win.

And since it is most likely to flip town, then they got most their points from being town.


firstly, three players are doing arguably better than me and jabzz because they still have hearts to play and similar scores and those three are not running on stbs, secondly removing codes from stbs wouldn't change the winrate at all, codes only change the person that lynches from being the clear templar lynching in blue ccs to the clear blue lynching in templars ccs, except the mafia will never cc templar anyway because of interactions d1 being likely to give them away so removing codes wouldn't change anything for stbs


Sorry, i brought STBS up because of Expose . . .

I am here just fighting against codes. . . How they are used to clear someone.

And actually, if closing codes won't change anything to stbs . . . I think it is even more helpful , because i am sure some people would just get angry that stbs may get removed.
over 7 years

xxerox says

Lets see... Yoyo - 1st place - 34 times played the setup.

Jabzz - 2nd place - 22 times played the setup

for those 2 to have so many points, they have to win.

And since it is most likely to flip town, then they got most their points from being town.


firstly, three players are doing arguably better than me and jabzz because they still have hearts to play and similar scores and those three are not running on stbs, secondly removing codes from stbs wouldn't change the winrate at all, codes only change the person that lynches from being the clear templar lynching in blue ccs to the clear blue lynching in templars ccs, except the mafia will never cc templar anyway because of interactions d1 being likely to give them away so removing codes wouldn't change anything for stbs
over 7 years
Besides the people who use codes is not as big as you may think.

Codes so far are only used in Disguiser setups and in SBTS or setups with 2 cops etc.

But still enough to ruin game experience from time to time.
over 7 years
In a game of lies there should never be 100% certainty based on outside means.
over 7 years
We are all too used to them to even see the problem.

Everything soon or later has to change. Rules too. We can't keep having same old rules, when the times change and new roles and mechanics are introduced.
over 7 years
But even if that doesn't happen, codes should be forbidden.

The main focus here is that those codes ruin games . They help players who can't play to clear their partners or themselves 100% and break the whole mechanic of the game.
over 7 years

expose says

Good players are going to win games regardless of the setup and their role. The balance of the setup is based on average and not on the performance of one player.


Then if the average of everyone is so bad that the setup barely keeps with the 69% mafia win rate . . .

I think it is time to blacklist it from comp for good.
over 7 years
Good players are going to win games regardless of the setup and their role. The balance of the setup is based on average and not on the performance of one player.
over 7 years
Codes are bad practice and bring only bad play into competitive and on the site as a whole.

Making a code to prove you are something you are not . . .

It is just like stating a meta on your profile so people to know its you -.-

Making a code in a game is the absolutely same thing. You make a 100% certain way to prove yourself .


This is a game of Mafia. A game of deceit and lies.

Not a game of Simon Says.
over 7 years
In any case, if the setup is so unbalanced to be comped, why everyone keeps comping it ? its obviously because it can be abused, so comping it helps people win.
over 7 years

expose says



The 43% town win is not true, because every round with this setup, the winners have their points from it.


What?


I am explaining this. If the players on first place can win so many games on STBS then it shows that the players who can't play or scumhunt are the ones who lose.
over 7 years
Lets see... Yoyo - 1st place - 34 times played the setup.

Jabzz - 2nd place - 22 times played the setup

for those 2 to have so many points, they have to win.

And since it is most likely to flip town, then they got most their points from being town.
over 7 years
This site is 100% pure meta abusing and rule breaking to win.

No one even tries to scumhunt anymore.

The site is a shadow of what it was 6 years ago.
over 7 years


The 43% town win is not true, because every round with this setup, the winners have their points from it.


What?
over 7 years
How about people stop abusing the rules and start scumhunting?

There are litteraly 5 town and 2 mafia . . .

People abuse Meta and Codes on the setup to farm points.

The 43% town win is not true, because every round with this setup, the winners have their points from it.
over 7 years


STBS is already heavily scum sided. Why would you want to make it even more scum sided by forbidding templar codes? If it were any more scumsided it would be banned from being comped altogether.
over 7 years
Or at least is considered a violation.

Here people abuse it for years -.-
over 7 years
Bumping it again.

There is a reason why it is considered OGI on many many many other sites and places.
over 7 years

pi314e271 says

well..

STBS will suddenly become even more mafsided that it currently is (like 20/80),

.


if you think this you are a moron
over 7 years
bump
over 7 years
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