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Serious talk. Impartial advice.

over 8 years

I know the em has a great community and some of you know me and others won't, since I play really little now but I need some honest advice from a neutral third party. Please!

Ok honest opinion please: seriously.

How would you interpret the situation:

Facts: My girlfriend's ex invited her, among 3-4 other people to an event. She messages him and declined the offer. They then message back and forth briefly for a few days essentially catching up as friends do - nothing weird in that regard. He does sound a little flirty, reflecting on their past and little inside jokes they had. She doesn't really respond to it but "replies back to the banter." They chat about me for a while, just saying how "good luck to [me] trying to deal with [her] mood swings (etc)." He then asks to call for "15 minutes" to talk about some stuff to do with church groups. They end up talking for an hour and from what I was told it was like a "catch-up" as they talked about things like me, university, their careers and their friends now and "that was about it." Also, we were at a bar last week and he was there too, he comes up randomly and hugs her, shakes my hand and leaves. She was flustered and didn't hug back (no issues with this). In the messages, he says that he "really needed that (seeing her for a moment)" because he has been having anxiety for the last 6 months. They broke up over a year ago.. so yeh. We've been together less than 6 months.

So that's all that happened.

She tells me that she had 0 intentions about anything bad and that it was just a catch-up because "eventually she will want to be friends with him again because if we're all adults, we can all move on and be mature about it."

She apologised and admitted that she shouldn't have done it in hindsight, but based on the fact that we should all be mature about it and since she wants to be friends, she can't see him "as an ex" forever. Therefore, she says that she doesn't think what she did was wrong, especially when she said that that's how she would talk to all her friends. She also mentioned that it was supposed to be like "from one youth coordinator (church) to another" so it was professional, but the 1 hour call at like 11pm seems a lot more social to me since nothing about the church was apparently discussed.

Do i deserve to be annoyed?? It's so petty of me to be like "you can never do this again" because logistically there's nothing wrong with being impartial friends again.

How would you interpret the situation and react?

I feel that it's a different scenario when it's an ex, it just is. I said if the situation was reversed, how it would've went and she agreed she wouldn't have liked it if it was my ex, but she saw not much wrong with the chat for 3 days and eventual call.

This is a lot better than being cheated on or having to pick her up from the ex's place or anything (which happened to my ex, in comparison). But anyway, what should my have been?!!? And what should she have done in her situation?? I thought it would've been politely decline the event, maybe send a message. Not reply and "banter" (flirt in my eyes...) back for a few days and then catch up and chat on the phone for an hour.

The worst thing is her friend asked her not to tell me. So that friend I feel they've been anti-railing me anyway. Oh also, sure, the ex might be to blame and out of line to message like that or call or flirt and stuff, but what he does with his life can't be my concern and it always takes two to tango. I want to know if what my girlfriend did is acceptable, am I being unreasonable, what you would respond to the situation as well.

Thanks in advance :( Idk what to feel or respond. She openly showed me all the messages and she told me what happened but during which she decided to message and call she had no intention of telling me.

Anyway, please, thoughts?

over 8 years
Only thing I can say is that "logistically" , there is nothing wrong.
deletedover 8 years
I wish you well
over 8 years
I don't think she necessarily cares about him, but he sounds like he's still hung up on her.

Don't be the jealous boyfriend and i'm reading Juneau's post as I type this and just follow what she said bc she's got it spot on
over 8 years
Yeh I completely agree with everything you're saying.

My interpretation was that it always takes 2 parties to start something like that, but you're right if she didn't have that intention at all or she didn't even think of anything like that then no harm no foul really right?

Also yeh I'm pretty sure he still has feelings for her given he also messaged her on her bday, Christmas and New Years lol. Those were simple friendly messages and she was very open to having me there while she responded - this time, she went off and called and messaged and hid it for a while because it wasn't anything bad apparently

Idek hahahaha I think I feel better anyway .. um... given orlys comment?? HAHAHA xD
over 8 years
I don't feel like there's any fault on your GF, but moreso on her ex.

From what you're saying, it's pretty obvious that your GF's ex still has feelings for her from hugging her at the bar, shaking your hand, and asking her to hide something from you. It may not be obvious to your GF because as far as she's concerned; she's just catching up with an old friend, mending bridges, etc.

You can let her know that you feel a bit uncomfortable with the entire situation given that it seems that her EX still has feelings for her. I wouldn't ask her to stop interacting with the guy because as you've said; they work together for a church group and it is at the very least a professional thing, and that if she really believes that her ex no longer has feelings for her then feel free to contact/hang out with him as she pleases. Basically leave it to her discretion and make sure you express that you trust her while making it clear to her about how you feel about the entire thing.
over 8 years
dont communicate with him at all. just fk her brains out and make her yours, you ponce.
over 8 years
Prepare to get cuked
over 8 years
Thanks for the feedback guys~ that honestly helps. I know their breakup was bad but apparently they've been slowly getting over it and we're pretty over it when me and her met last year. I just can't identify with how that feels or empathise because I guess I got out of my relationship only about 2 months and then I met her ... though I never feel that I would need to message my ex like that. What sucks too is that she started messaging him which triggered him to message, and that's a bugging point coz if he messaged her, it would've been"oh wh didn't you tell me first" but since she initiated its more wtfwtf

And no im not gonna do anything stupid lol, I hope it doesn't happen again, she did say that she screwed up and promised to not do anything like that again.
over 8 years
use her phone to tell him to f uck off to speed up the process
over 8 years
he sounds like he'll kill himself some time soon so don't worry
deletedover 8 years
i think most guys find themselves in a similar situation at one point or another

definitely don't be passive aggressive about it. don't throw any ultimatums demanding that she cease contact with him. don't say stuff like "oh why don't you just ask [ex's name]". women hate that and its a big turnoff.

invest in yourself. dont put women on pedestals.

im glad you decided to ask epicmafia and not /r/relationships
deletedover 8 years
I'd react very similarly to you. Now I'm going to give you the truth on your situation. You aren't wrong to feel the way you feel.

I'm sure your girlfriend cares/loves you, but if she is willing to talk with him on the phone for an hour at 11 at night, there's still a part of her that cares about him, and there isn't much you can do about that.

That's just the way most people are and it's difficult to completely get over an ex unless the relationship ended harshly. If their breakup went somewhat smoothly, the memories and emotions they had are still going to remain intact whenever they speak with each other.

However, if I were you, I wouldn't let the thoughts of her and him consume you. It's gonna eat at you and start unnecessary problems in your relationship
over 8 years
Good luck with that doozy
deletedover 8 years
Too long didnt read
over 8 years
I sound like such a lol