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Bacde says Sadly, not every fancy pants player is smarter than the average bear. In fact, some of them can't even get the coin to flip.
If coinflips are bad why is 53/46 bad then, its not like a coinflip then
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Heads or tails. Heads? Good game, you win.
Bacde says a setup having a 50/50 balance doesn't make it a good setup dude, that just makes it a coin flip
and even if you use your argument fp (with a 53-46% town win rate) isn't even a balanced setup in comparison to Jan 2.0 and VDLi which are both nearly 50/50 setups
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Bacde says Kylo says Bacde says Rutab says Using the same reasoning, flipping a coin is the ultimate game, and we should all go do that right now.
Wtf is this thread fam, fp is cancer. If it was comp so much GT and cheating would happen. It would be funny but like NAH.
Kylo says Bacde says Rutab says its very difficult for even the most popular comp setups to attain this level of evenness, so fancypants is kind of the ultimate competitive setup if you think about it
it completely nullifies the autoloss argument--as though it could affect the complexity and depth of this steadfast setup that has been proven over time to have complex and sophisticated strategic depth. Why else would it be so popular?
fp wouldn't be too bad without the gs, i could even see the argument for getting it comped but the posibility of the gs makes it nearly impossible for mafia to do much wifom
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Bacde says Rutab says Yes, you're right, almost as even as flipping a coin
Rutab says situations like this are rare and only serve to balance the setup though, the win rate is very equal between town/mafia on fp
Shouldn't expect common sense from cows.
Fancy pants has potential autoloss on day 1 lol
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vilden says Because cry n spy is skill based and Fancy Pants is literally, not figuratively, a coinflip based on its EV
@Rutab boundaries of point payout and roles allowed. Already set by mods.
Blister says that's stupid . it's easy to cheat on any setup. why arent setups like CNS blacklisted then if it's based on how easy it is to cheat on them
Lets weigh the pros and cons
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Blister says The compliments are always backhanded with me
Blister says This too.
Moderator discretion isn't bad in different situations at all. It's necessary a lot of the time.
What kind of boundaries are you talking about then, Pranay? Those would be set by mods too.
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feeling conflicted with that upvote and tongue-in-cheek attack combo
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Blister says Hey, I'll take your word for it man, you'd know.
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i think the main reason fancy pants is blacklisted from comp is it's ridiculous easy to cheat on it
Also the mods who made those decisions have been banned for cheating and demoded dishounrably.
Mod discretion is the biggest bs mods pull. It is their personal choice. If they are able to say some bs and convince some other gullible mods then they get what they want. A competition based on winners picking setups and players playing it should not be interfered in, by mods once boundaries are set. If the majority wants to play fancy pants then they should be allowed to. Also you will see more people playing gold heart and new players will be encouraged to run for the trophy once they see their name on the leader board.
I would disagree that it's a "power trip."
