foxie i'm honestly not even going to read that lol

newton and godel were both christian. and like the best mathematicians the world has ever known. they couldn't manage ur lonely theorising of determinism?

feeling is a reaction

what you're overlooking is the complexity of the real world. in the broadest sense, you pushing a ball is you exerting a force onto a ball to which it reacts, but in the real world your brain is telling your arms to move then theres a whole bunch of muscles that respond to that signal and even air plays a role in acting as an opposing force to both your hand and the ball, but you dont think about it because its tiny details

but the real world is made up entirely of tiny details. when you think to do something, your thoughts are also reactions, which when you zoom out you compile as one big entity but you have to realize that this entity is made up of smaller components that add up to it

Well yea, I'd say it is a valid interpretation if there is no evidence to the contrary regardless how ridiculous it sounds. You kind of described a multiverse theory thats plausible.

I suppose this is why I consider myself an agnostic atheist: atheist because I don't believe in a deity and agnostic because I don't claim that there is or isn't one.

i mean feeling is the stuff souls were made of since long before science fancied itself master of the universe. and pretty fcking unanimously and fervently. and science is still having problems with it. a few equations haven't changed that much, not if we're being honest

baneofmafia doesn't have a clue what he's talking about for the most part lol

the problem of qualia is their being unnecessary/unlike anything else in the material world, foxie. why do you need to feel to react, why not just react? what is feeling? is feeling solid? can you take it out of a person? can you get feeling transfusions? i mean it's just not the dumb stoner philosophy you're making it out to be

also metaphysics as a philosophy is not a study

philosophy is not a study

philosophy is made of ideas outside of the physical world, and you can't study that. to call it a study is to imply you can study something that doesn't actually exist

to say that because there isnt explicit evidence even though theres implicit evidence means that the mind exists in a vacuum somewhere is like if i said there's a different universe for every person and everything you know is just an imitation of each person in your personal universe and this interpretation of everything is valid because there isnt evidence to the contrary

what dualists and other tryhard philosophers did was create nonsense concepts like i just did and defended them with the fact that there is no proving or disproving metaphysical gibberish

you guys are nerds XD

Physics behaves differently at the quantum level and we still don't know if observation defines particle positions.

Mind is not matter. Not even scientifically. The brain is, and it reacts, sure. But we are still unable to explain consciousness despite being able to explain its components.

Consequently, we don't know if there is existence outside of qualia or what existence even is for that matter (pun intended). Thats what the whole study of metaphysics focuses on.

Yes, the Big Bang is the prime mover, but we have yet to understand what it is thats moving, how its moving, and what the results will be. There is room for dualistic interpretations among the many others.

oh it's 'the creation of adam' lol

i also think qualia are a legit philosophical mystery. the name sucks real bad tho

fck death tbqh

i think it's a real strange thing to be human. to speak the name of god. we're a very special part of the universe, there's little denying that. and i mean i can't imagine the mechanics of a soul or free will, but there's still that real fcking strange element to our existence, it's like that painting 'the creation of man' whatshisname did. michelangelo lol. and i mean anthropic principle and whatever, but still. it's fcking weird being this conscious thing. i wouldn't write anything off tbh. and people do such beautiful things you could nearly think the whole world was just for those things. i think there can be something good just in choosing to believe

My butt is tight

i believe in the soul

explain platonic love to me next blister

everything is matter. your thoughts, feelings, emotions, fears and dreams are all just byproducts of a purely physical brain. the soul isn't real, love is a chemical reaction, there is no afterlife, you are going to die and everything you ever thought, experienced and believed will decompose into the dirt. and that is OK.

dualism is for amateurs

the big bang was the prime mover of the universe and everything that follows is a reaction

regarding op in the strictly scientific sense, the mind is matter and matter reacts. psychiatry for example looks for possible causes of present actions in past experiences, because those experiences ultimately shaped you as your mind developed in response to them as with everything else

what you'll do next is just what you were always going to do next as a response to everything leading up to this point

qua·li·a
The internal and subjective component of sense perceptions, arising from stimulation of the senses by phenomena.

sounds like a reaction to me

if you drop a banana peel and someone slips on it, was the banana peel the prime cause of that outcome or were you?

(edit: what that means is that humans change things but something else first acts on humans)

you know whats silly, people believe in god because the "prime mover" philosophy makes sense, but atheists will mock religious people because they personify this initial force into some silly nonsense that lives somewhere in space as opposed to a singular force that happened and is no more

Nothing matters