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EU/BRexit thread

over 8 years

Would u vote to leave or stay (pretend you are british if you aren't i guess)

what u vote
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I'd vote to stay in
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I'm an idiot
over 8 years

yoyo200900 says

http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/c4-survey-and-documentary-reveals-what-british-muslims-really-think

this is one source, i've seen many others


I rather remember that survey being heavily criticised for its methodology, but it's definitely true that there are significant populations like that.

Part of the problem is lack of integration, though. "British Culture" doesn't really exist in the first place - it's been a hodge-podge of cultures mashed together for centuries. But when you essentially have muslim ghettos forming in places like Bradford and some boroughs of London, where there is zero integration between "Locals" and immigrants, then radical cultures will start to take sway. This has been caused by poor planning right from the top of the central government right down to local government. But it's something nobody wants to talk about and do something about, which is definitely a problem, because soon those places will become so separated they'll be like the bainlieux of Paris or Molenbeek of Brussels.

Greater integration and education is needed to help prevent this, but the thing needed above all else is a solution to the Housing Crisis. A lot of these immigrants are moving in together in those houses because there is nowhere for them to live. Locals are obviously not doing that, so the housing crisis locks them out of that area too. Until a government finally admits that private house construction is never going to replace the massive loss of public housing that Right to Buy and the end of new council house construction has caused, there will not be a solution to the housing crisis OR the potential ghetto issues.
over 8 years
That's actually very worrying, but at the same time there are still many muslims with good morals so I don't believe muslims arent a part of British culture
over 8 years
over 8 years
Where are you getting those figures from?
over 8 years
your time would be better used talking to a wall @both
over 8 years

Escurai says


yoyo200900 says


Escurai says


Why does he have to mention all the migrants as "muslim" as if it's a dirty word?



muslim ideals don't mix with british ideals


The moment I realise that my time is just wasted on you lol


The moment I realise that my time is just wasted on you lol
over 8 years
wait i've thought of a better response
over 8 years

Escurai says


yoyo200900 says


Escurai says


Why does he have to mention all the migrants as "muslim" as if it's a dirty word?



muslim ideals don't mix with british ideals


The moment I realise that my time is just wasted on you lol


over half of the british muslims think that being gay should be made illegal

66% think that people that commit adultery should be executed

39% think that a woman should always obey her husband

23% think that sharia law should be instated into britain

these are the british muslims, what do you think the muslims coming from islamic countries think?
over 8 years

Japter says

What happens to ukip if we leave the eu, isn't the their main policy lol


They'll probs just go back to tighter immigration laws or something
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I just realised that this poll sucks since I am simultaneously an idiot and want to stay in
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What happens to ukip if we leave the eu, isn't the their main policy lol
over 8 years

yoyo200900 says


Escurai says


Why does he have to mention all the migrants as "muslim" as if it's a dirty word?



muslim ideals don't mix with british ideals


The moment I realise that my time is just wasted on you lol
over 8 years
I could go into this in far more detail but this is EpicMafia and I have better sticks to shove into my eyes
over 8 years
As a socialist, member of Labour, member of Momentum, and hard-line leftist, I'm voting Out. Not because of immigration; but because of TTIP. European solidarity died when the ECB & The Commission shafted a democratically elected government in Greece last year. Tear the whole rotten thing down and start it again.
over 8 years

yoyo200900 says

i looked into empathy, it doesn't look like something you'd want to base your country's policies around


i mean, empathy is theoretically a good thing to factor in to decisions concerning the lives of many people that are not you, so if the person you're arguing for can't even keep a believable ruse of possessing some, that doesn't bode well for you
over 8 years

Shamzy says


Impoetic says


Shamzy says


Impoetic says


yoyo200900 says

so suck my dock you uninformed turd


why would you replace an extra letter you absolute moron


he only swapped letter i for o


oh. duck my life.


its okay I'll always be here to remind you that your mistakes matter


...always?
over 8 years

Impoetic says


Shamzy says


Impoetic says


yoyo200900 says

so suck my dock you uninformed turd


why would you replace an extra letter you absolute moron


he only swapped letter i for o


oh. duck my life.


its okay I'll always be here to remind you that your mistakes matter
over 8 years

Shamzy says


Impoetic says


yoyo200900 says

so suck my dock you uninformed turd


why would you replace an extra letter you absolute moron


he only swapped letter i for o


oh. duck my life.
over 8 years

Impoetic says


yoyo200900 says

so suck my dock you uninformed turd


why would you replace an extra letter you absolute moron


i will flip you up
over 8 years

Impoetic says


yoyo200900 says

so suck my dock you uninformed turd


why would you replace an extra letter you absolute moron


he only swapped letter i for o
over 8 years

yoyo200900 says

so suck my dock you uninformed turd


why would you replace an extra letter you absolute moron
over 8 years
so suck my dock you uninformed turd
over 8 years

Escurai says


Why does he have to mention all the migrants as "muslim" as if it's a dirty word?



muslim ideals don't mix with british ideals


Escurai says


7:39 the strain on public services is caused by a lack of funding and the bills IMPOSED by Jeremy Hunt for seven day a week services, NOT BY MIGRANTS.



migrants needing hospital care from british hospitals will put more of a strain on public services, so leaving the eu would be better than staying because it means we would receive less migrants


Escurai says


And really, you're going to take my point about not being able to join again completely out of context where I explained why it was important due to a lack of information spreading, that's just so low.



i don't understand what you were trying to say if what i said isn't an answer your point


Escurai says


Also, Germany has this thing called empathy, you might want to look into it. They are only swamped because we along with others are taking such pitiful amounts



i looked into empathy, it doesn't look like something you'd want to base your country's policies around
over 8 years

Escurai says


6:34 what a scaremongering b*stard using the action of a few to incriminate 800,000, unbelievable.



it's not the actions of a few, it's the actions of more than a few. i've spoken with three germans (separately) about this and all of them said that they and their peers were unhappy at the numbers of refugees being let into the country. even if letting a million migrants into britain meant one woman got it wouldn't be worth it


Escurai says


6:55 "We're full" We are taking pitiful amounts of refugees compared to literally nearly every country, and we are really not that densely populated. Why not just look at all the houses Brexit supporter Boris Johnson promised and never delivered if you think we're full?



i don't know how you can say that because other countries are taking refugees, we should too. the more refugees that are let in the lower the british people's quality of life will drop, because less money will be available to be spent per person. i don't know about the last bit about boris johnson.


Escurai says


Many people in Britain are really self entitled and dont realise so many of these migrants to not migrate by choice, and that they have earned nothing just by being born into a wealthy country.



maybe you'll be less of a socialist when you start paying taxes
over 8 years

Escurai says


Around 3:30 he chooses to cherrypick examples of politicians that fall out and disagree with the EU



i don't know what you're trying to say but the point being made is that the eu is ruled undemocratically, which is bad


Escurai says


5:30 this is absolutely insane, if you show the average british man a picture of David Cameron they won't even fuking know who he is. Congratulations to him on using ignorance of the general public to make a completely irrelevant point.



i don't think that this is true and the point being made is that being in the eu means that we're being ruled by people that we don't elect which i think is a relevant point because i'd rather be ruled by people that i did elect rather than people i didn't


Escurai says


6:04 this man is a C*nt



i doubt that you can articulate why you think that, because the only reason that you think that is because it's a position which will win you some social brownie points in left wing circles


Escurai says


Then they go on to talk about a loss of sovreigny when I've already explained why that is crap, and how people cant consider anything changing in the EU or how many policies we literally back out of because we dont like them.



i'm not sure that i know what you mean but you might be saying that it's ok to be part of the eu because we can choose to not follow the laws set by the eu but that's not true and if it were true then what's the point in staying in the eu