A lot of your reads have just been different from mine at certain moments and you doubt them in weird places. I do think you're explaining them better than last game, but I don't think that on its own is enough to say you're town considering how many towny players there are fmpov.
I think I should be townread by Gerry. I thought it was weird that you chose that moment to doubt my alignment.
I have been attempting to play in a protown way but I'm a moody, ditzy, anxious person with little experience in forum mafia outside of these games, which I have been losing most of due to bad play as town. The one game I flipped mafia, I won, but not because of stellar play. I didn't play like this though.
I TR Aug and N1ed but have gone back and forth on mist btw. I don't see that as a convenient read. What I have done that could be a scumtell is give in and sheep others towards the end of each day despite having my reservations about the lynches. That's because of indecision and is a valid reason to SR me.
(There's also the fact that I have been listing towntells, but I know that's normally a scumtell and your immediate refutation of your "might be mafia" line would stick out as either alignment so there's no reason for me to overblow the issue internally. And that came way later.)
I'm not necessarily scumreading you for what you said, but I thought it worth nagging you about. I'm slightly embarrassed about the way i handled the action tho tbqh
yeah my ideas have changed and also vary from player to player. N1ed might be bold but i have tr'd him for the most part since then. I also just realized I have not actually been necessarily transparent about everything so that was false. I mean sometimes I have, but not always. And I read certain things as scumtells/towntells based on who has them as much as anything else and I'm sure you do that too.
I play suboptimally as town and not on purpose. I might call myself a GTer as a joke sometimes, but I don't really GT. I just don't think things through all the time and/or miss details. As mafia, I'd have partners to help me out with that.
I have not been reading conveniently. I TR'd mist when she was intentionally scumtelling but scumread her at other times. Letting town implode may be fine but in that scenario it's probably even more imperative that you don't put a halt to that implosion. I TR Ripple and haven't pushed you just now even though I pushed you earlier and teh most logical thing on the surface would have been to keep pushing.
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I want to vote Connor over Ian again btw
deletedover 8 years
vote connor
vote mist
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deletedover 8 years
I did say I feel bad about it why do I feel like you ignore half my posts I may be your top scumread but points you are making to scum read me are things I've already covered Unvote You think I was mafia for pushing on your claim when you cant tell me it looks weird for 2 invest pr's to be in a set up that the host themselves would be mostly scum hunting I know you retracted the claim but I honestly don't get how you don't understand my way of thinking I also asked to not get tr'd on me ate and on the other things I've done this game
I do feel somewhat guilty on me ateing but at the same time I don't because i'm human and I get upset I don't think I should be burned at the stake for not being able to handle my emotions better then other people
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I honestly have been pushing my reads I guess you can say I somewhat have coasted a bit but I said at the start of this game i've been busy so I'm not as invested as I have been before and that's my own fault
deletedover 8 years
you should feel guilty for playing that way regardless of your alignment
deletedover 8 years
Just woke up hi i'll re read and THANK YOU IMPOE YOU KNOW ME
impoetic they stole my point you cant do this to me
deletedover 8 years
"I haven't paid any attention to whether things were towny. I'm pretty obviously a paranoid and self-doubting person, and all my paranoia has been directed at scumhunting rather than towntelling."
i disagree entirely. not that it makes you mafia but your pushes have seemed convenient
"My logic has been bizarre. That means I've made no effort to mask its inconsistencies. I'd have to be pretty bold mafia to do that, and anyone here can assure you I'm not very bold."
you're calling yourself town for the same reason you were calling n1ed mafia before. i agree that it's towny though
"I've scumread my tr's. This falls into the "weird reads if you're mafia, man" thing. In FM, my understanding is that you can't just play as anti-mafia as possible and let people tr you, because setups are more townsided than that and they can have autowin and lynch your partner + there will be town players who will towntell eventually if the game goes on too long and you do protown things like rxn tests all the time. There's also more chance to slip up."
again, you can give whatever reads you want as long as town implodes
"and I'm digging at your quesiton. I didn't think you were trying to lynch me. You asked, and I went above and beyond with my answer. I don't think the question makes sense based on your purported reads throughout the game. If you didn't know what I'd done to be tr'd, why did you tr me?"
it's not that i didn't know what you had done to be townread. i don't think that you've been playing in a pro-town way and i think you know that, so it's weird that you think you should be universally townread
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"You've tr'd lots of people who have scumtold and towntold, who are less open players than me, without doubting your SR's on them."
i think you'd be open as either alignment since you sort of have to or else you'd be obvious mafia with how you play as town. i have doubted my scumreads, i don't know where you get that i don't
"A lot of people you TR townread me, so obviously I've done something that is towny to many people and there's no reason for me not to take that into account."
a lot of people in this game are also bad
"My posts have been stream-of-thought and I've been transparent about most of what I said without worrying about whether it was towny or not. I've read my own posts and thought they were very towny."
ok
"Despite being TR'd from early on, I haven't used my influence in a way that's actually helpful if I'm mafia. I've been all over the place with my reads; as mafia, this gives town many reasosn to switch onto me or my partner when I voted them. I could have gotten fosed for beign inconsistent and all over the place, or my partner could have been bandwagoned because I had towncred and fosed them."
if town's imploding and you're being townread you wouldn't interfere. about being inconsistent, you could say the same thing about me but you're calling me mafia for it
"I've defended people at times when i coudl have gotten them lynched and ended the day, depriving town of the chance to ml mafia or get more information. As mafia who is tr'd, especially, it'd be optimal for me to make the game go as quickly as possible or coast and keep my reads where they were."
you'd be the first to say that you don't play optimally
i doubt justdance will actually read all that and i don't really want him to but it's there so he can give himself a blowjob if he doesn't explain why he thought it was a protown question to ask what I've done to towntell, at that moment in time.
connor doesn't have to read the text because connor hasn't tried to dispute my alignment. I only care about justdance skimming parts of it and/or answering my questions well
So, in summary, if I were mafia, my play would be completely absurd (almost verging on gamethrow in some ways), so my partners would be pretty peeved at certain points throughout the game. Do I seem like someone who wouldn't care if my partners were peeved at me?
And besides that, other people (INCLUDING YOU) TRing me makes it really odd if you tr them because that means either I've obviously done something to warrant genuine townreads or else they're forcing reads, which is a scum action.
My logic has been bizarre. That means I've made no effort to mask its inconsistencies. I'd have to be pretty bold mafia to do that, and anyone here can assure you I'm not very bold.
I've scumread my tr's. This falls into the "weird reads if you're mafia, man" thing. In FM, my understanding is that you can't just play as anti-mafia as possible and let people tr you, because setups are more townsided than that and they can have autowin and lynch your partner + there will be town players who will towntell eventually if the game goes on too long and you do protown things like rxn tests all the time. There's also more chance to slip up.
Ok, not bullet point format, but at least I put more paragraphs?
and I'm digging at your quesiton. I didn't think you were trying to lynch me. You asked, and I went above and beyond with my answer. I don't think the question makes sense based on your purported reads throughout the game. If you didn't know what I'd done to be tr'd, why did you tr me?
You've tr'd lots of people who have scumtold and towntold, who are less open players than me, without doubting your SR's on them.
A lot of people you TR townread me, so obviously I've done something that is towny to many people and there's no reason for me not to take that into account.
My posts have been stream-of-thought and I've been transparent about most of what I said without worrying about whether it was towny or not. I've read my own posts and thought they were very towny.
Despite being TR'd from early on, I haven't used my influence in a way that's actually helpful if I'm mafia. I've been all over the place with my reads; as mafia, this gives town many reasosn to switch onto me or my partner when I voted them. I could have gotten fosed for beign inconsistent and all over the place, or my partner could have been bandwagoned because I had towncred and fosed them.
I've defended people at times when i coudl have gotten them lynched and ended the day, depriving town of the chance to ml mafia or get more information. As mafia who is tr'd, especially, it'd be optimal for me to make the game go as quickly as possible or coast and keep my reads where they were.
I haven't paid any attention to whether things were towny. I'm pretty obviously a paranoid and self-doubting person, and all my paranoia has been directed at scumhunting rather than towntelling.
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i am not trying to lynch you. i think that ripple is mafia. i'm voting ripple
You asked what I'd done to be tr'd and I used other people thinking I'm town to justify the fact that I expect to be tr'd, since those people surely tr me off of SOMETHING, and most of those words are actually not that but you didn't read it so you wouldn't know.
You didn't read it cuz you know i'm town, and you're contradicting yourself
