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                                        It is endgame. Mafia wins.


Rules:

http://pastebin.com/Y6igF1wt

Mechanics/ Sample Role PM:

http://pastebin.com/2d7mex7z

Deadline and Procedure:

http://pastebin.com/i0yqmYQz

Special notes:

http://pastebin.com/SWjepVcC

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it's funny because I still see gerry as being either the third or fourth towniest person in this game LOL
about 8 years
fyi i didnt realise typos were considered BM

it was a failsafe in case retti included my vote even tho it was passed deadline

the fact that it was passed deadline was the only really important part of the fake-vote
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mist says


N1ed says

every town pushed on mist at some point LOL


i take the bulk of the blame for this. when every town pushes a certain slot, there's obviously something up with the slot.


idk I mean you played a good game, I think it just went as wrong for you as possible lol.

besides, mafia wanted to kill you n1 and I really think that means you did something right
about 8 years
because i based most of my play on the fact i kinda felt my role was informative along with protective, so that when i died impoe would be cleared completely and mist would be outed as mafia (if they were mafia my bad but whatever)
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UltraAug says

oh yeah i forgot..

i went out of my way to ask retti if my role would be outed and explained and they said yes
*on death

they proceeded to not explain my role when i died and refused to when i asked but whatever mist saved it


I posted the flip. That's all the explanation there is. It's not like I was gonna post a Role PM.
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N1ed says

every town pushed on mist at some point LOL


i take the bulk of the blame for this. when every town pushes a certain slot, there's obviously something up with the slot.
about 8 years
oh yeah i forgot..

i went out of my way to ask retti if my role would be outed and explained and they said yes
*on death

they proceeded to not explain my role when i died and refused to when i asked but whatever mist saved it
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every town pushed on mist at some point LOL
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UltraAug says

i feel i actually did okay somewhat for once

did i get that doc save or did mafia nk




i agree but our play styles are alike and apparently were both spammy

anyway yeah you saved because mod mistake I think, gj
about 8 years
regret pushing on mist though that was my bad
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but yeah, I'm excited for a forum mafia 16 actually, I can really see a town win for some reason.

especially if I roll mafia wtf
about 8 years
i feel i actually did okay somewhat for once

did i get that doc save or did mafia nk
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lol I read ultra's and I was like "wtf that's me" and then you posted mine and I was like LOL

but anyway yeah I agree, maybe we should've given mist a little more ground to run on, but I felt like nothing had changed for 4 days and I probably would've voted mist too had no one listened to me on connor lol
about 8 years
well that was upsetting but whatever
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People shouldn't feel offended on my personal opinion of their play rather take it as something they can improve on. By no means do I think any of you are godawful and shouldn't play mafia, rather I just want to see all of you live up to the potential I see, which is what I want to focus on more.

I say this as someone who has had scathing mod opinions from someone basically slamming my whole play in the past, but I learned from it. That's all I want.
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9. N1ed - Basically the same issues as UltraAug, really. I think you definitely have potential but just need to cut down on typing at 1000 words per second and clogging the thread.

10. mist - I don't think you did necessarily anything wrong like you think you did, and If I were in your position I'd feel pretty pissed and frustrated too. I'm not taking into full account of your reads because this was a hard game to read and trying to have a clear mind about whatever the hell was going on is a feudal battle in itself. You weren't given a good environment to thrive in and I think you let your frustration seep a little into your posts that people evidently took as scumtelling. I know you've been playing forum more recently and I think you're aware of most of your own issues, so I won't preach to you. I do believe however that those issues aren't as horrible as you think they are.
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6. justdance666 - I'm disappointed with your play ian based on a read perspective and overall attitude. I think you presented yourself in a overzealous manner that wasnt justified because nobody was really listening to you, and when it came down to it you pulled the same card you did last game when you were scum with me which was fakeclaiming a PR for no transparent reason. I can understand it to an extent but I don't believe you're an idiot and I don't believe that how you played this game reflects on your mafia ability in general. A lot of the time you latch onto something good but you either let it go for some reason or nothing happens with it. Also, dont self-hammer like that. You screwed town quite a bit.

7. Impoetic - Already gave you my opinion in private.

8. Ripple - It was so frustrating to me watching you play this game because your reads are usually on-point but you just don't do enough in the convincing aspect. I think you tried to learn from your meltdown earlier but in the end you were just such a non-factor that it didn't matter what you said. Perhaps you were wrong in the end but before you were someone who I thought could possibly turn things around had you been more vocal. I kinda like your stubborness but also don't because it usually doesn't go anywhere and you don't pressure your scumreads beyond a flimsy vote. Be more proactive! Ask questions! All that good stuff.

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yeah please don't.
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2. Gerry - Good job. I don't have much to say beyond that I think if I was in the game I would've payed more attention to your inconsistencies and mindset, which people didn't pay attention because they were too busy harping on someone else. You played townie to a tee but there are some holes I saw, one being that you switched up your style so dramatically and you lacked the certain gumption you do as town. Just some minor things but overall solid.

3. Connor - I think that Gerry carried your load at some points but I believe you also did what you to which means that you put in your weight too. I believe you feigned the whole 'lol dont care about mafia' card a bit too much but again, town didn't really notice it. I wouldn't suggest joining again or trying to play like that with people who are a bit more wise and more willing to ML people who don't actively participate or contribute.

4. Sonrio - Not too many comments, you died D1. Pretty unfortunate but I think you suffer from not making your thoughts clear and being stupidly vague about things, and I think you commit the sin that most players I see commit and you believe that being right is more important than explaining why you're right. That's just not how it works here.

5. UltraAug - You doubt yourself far too often and you're very scatterbrained, but with the right direction you could turn out to be a good player. You have the means of letting your thoughts be known but instead of it being neat it comes like a giant mess and it's incredibly hard to pinpoint what you're getting at. Treat the thread less like the lobby wall where you post your every thought and more like a debate where you want to make your points clear as possible. Good job protecting Impoetic.

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mist says

Vote: Ripple

Let's do it boyz.


f o r e s h a d o w i n g
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Retti says

Individual player comments forthcoming



Retti says

Individual player comments forthcoming



oh god no
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Individual player comments forthcoming
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i assumed something like that was the reason for it, but aren't you able to delete posts?

idk it's a good rule but maybe you should add one where we HAVE to make a separate post for votes, or else it doesn't count.
about 8 years
i actually like the EBWOP.
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N1ed says

also retti, I feel like the EBWOP thing might have made it harder to do good vote counts. it really lengthened the thing, and I don't think editing has affecting a game negatively too bad before?

idk I get the logic behind the rule but it made the game a lot harder to follow I presume

other than that I think you did fine, I can agree with the modvote and most other decision made


It gives consistency to people so they can't edit their posts on a whim in a critical moment such as a hammer or even trying to edit out something that could backfire on them.

Imagine if a scumteam was able to omit any word they wanted to and just completely erase a sentence. It would cripple town and give them an unfair advantage, even if one could say 'well only mafia would do that' but the little exclamation mark doesn't explicitly show what was edited and why. EBWOP is a standardized thing in forum that saves face.