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deletedover 8 years

The game has ended in a Mafia Win.


I. The Schedule:

72 hour days and 12 hour nights.

If the majority of night actions have not been submitted by the end of the night, I will extend the night another 12 hours. This will only occur once per night at most.

II. The Setup:

(Changes from previous forum mafia games are in bold)

  • Normal closed roles setup, as always, with the roles and affixes listed below.
  • By default there are no Night 1 actions, including the mafia kill.
  • By default no role can self visit, except watcher.
  • Players who share a meeting may communicate outside the game at any time of day.
  • Players are always notified at day start if their role is changed.
  • One mafia makes the kill each night. They will be the only one to visit the target.
  • On death, players flip their full role by default.
  • Members of the mafia may both make their role action as well as the factional kill on the same night.

III. The Roles:

http://pastebin.com/w0LTVjV7

Please note the additions of Templar, Celebrity, and Serial Killer. These additions do not confirm they will be present in the game.

IV. The Rules:

http://pastebin.com/w9AJgZPR

Please note the addition of the Twilight phase (in short, discussion after the hammer has occurred is now allowed until I am present to begin the night phase). Also, supermajority rules are in effect with no time limit.

V. Game Mechanics:

  • Meetings between players (mafia, masons, templars) will be facilitated in whatever way is most convenient for the players, as long as I can access these communications. Skype, Discord, QuickTopics, or Private Messages which include the moderators are all fine.
  • Votes must be made in the format Vote: Playername. Bolding is done using the tags [b][/b].

over 8 years
Alright, sorry. Can you just tell me what you were thinking when you asked what the alternative was?

edit: you said calvin and sin, and you said it twice. What are YOUR thoughts on those two and why did you flip from me to Ultra just now? Was that accidental or was it a conscious choice?
over 8 years

Stragger says

I don't have the answers and I'm here in the flesh trying to figure things out just like everyone else.


I asked this 3 times i'll do it agai thoughts on Calvin and ultra
deletedover 8 years
I don't have the answers and I'm here in the flesh trying to figure things out just like everyone else.
over 8 years
I did respond. I told you, I'm set on lynching outside of anti and gerry today, which makes the alternatives
-You
-Calvin
-ClaireRedfield :c
-I guess johnreid.

I'm with Gerry on aug. I only added Claire because I'm right now rereading today from her, but I feel like she's unlikely to be scum because of the end of D1. I want people to come back before I pick a lynch. I am bad at tunneling and deciding and not slowrolling but these ARE alternatives.

edit: and you've been consistently overlooking Claire and my posts today while you were tunneling anti. You then VOTED her even after stating that she wouldn't be a lynch today. I'm not asking for another one of your fabulous pastebins, but I'd like to hear what's going on under-the-hood with you. Why are you asking for the obvious "alternative" of lynching outside them? Why aren't you willing to? Am I misinterpreting you?
deletedover 8 years
Because I haven't had the time to apply pressure and I have just gotten settled in and had the availability to do so. I asked you about your alternatives and I'm still waiting on that, please.
over 8 years

antikrist says


ClaireRedfield says

I doubt it but we can lynch anti and test Blister for fun!



> doesn't care if it's mylo


I ALSO think this is towny from antikrist. I'm sure I'm being too quick but I tihnk all of these little towntells added together and the fact that Gerry is town fmpov (and was leaning that way at daystart already, but is solidified as a TR now -- watch him be scum this game specifically --) makes her a downright egregious lynch target.

Seriously, Retti, why did you suddenly tunnel and vote her?

edit: that point is a good one, but I want Blister to participate instead of lying low and fencesitting as if he were clear.
deletedover 8 years
If anything, Blister claiming parity cop on a cop flip would be incredibly stupid for him to do as scum.
over 8 years
Sincerely and Ultra you should both vote Stragger wth me. :)
over 8 years
Last PR might just be something stupid anyway though. I definitely think an investigative PR should claim at this point.

edit: Definitely don't claim yet if you aren't a PR. Leave it up to PRs if they want to claim on their own.
over 8 years
I think killer is way more likely since that was just put in the game. ^^;

Also, re: massclaiming... I'd be up for it if everyone else was, but I don't want to force a PR out if they think they're better off hidden.
over 8 years

UltraAug says

cough or a mafia sided vig..

the last few posts made me think sincerely is town


why would they put a town sided vig and maf sided vig lol. i mean, yeah you're right but idk if they'd do that.
over 8 years

Gerry says

NEVERMIND IT ISNT AN ASSASSIN. THAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THE DAY. WE HAVE A SERIAL KILLER AMONGST US.




cough or a mafia sided vig..

the last few posts made me think sincerely is town
over 8 years
BTW I do NOT think missing the death's role is a scumtell. I've done it as town in ruby maf, but never as scum. It happens 'cause you have a report/are focused on other things or 'cause you're being a spaz. Mafia and SK would both be focused on the kill -- especially since there were two.

Well, at the very least, the "Oh, and killer can be gf or bp! I just realized that!" was a non-SK slip, but I am pretty sure the thing I (thought I) noticed earlier seemed better than that.
over 8 years
Honestly I wouldn't even mind a massclaim cause: SK needs to kill mafia not town or they will lose by the numbers and all the mafia will know who SK is and kill them at the end lol.
over 8 years
Claire: Prob town. At first I thought her interaction with Zayn was fake but then it started to look town vs town. And based on a little meta she's either Town or SK. But, I'm leaning town here.

Antikrist: Null. Errr. This is tough, because I don't actually townread her. But, if Blister's claim is legit she's either Town or SK. IF not, he's prob mafia with Antikrist. So she could still be all 3 to me, thus being null.

Stragger: I honestly have liked none of your posts at all. There isn't one that says "Omg that's really townie" So, thus, you're null leaning mafia

Johnreid: Prob town. I liked his questionings day 1 when it came to the roles, it also seemed legit and not forced. He also gave god reasons to back up his reads which I like.

Blister: MAF?? Cop?? SK?? (unlikely SK). He's either mafia or cop. It's hard to believe there would be 5 PRs here. But, if he's real that means Antikrist is either town or SK so if SK is lynched she's clear to me.

UltraAug: Town. I don't know how to describe it but he's given a town vibe to me. He also hardclaimed Blue when being lynched while mafia prob wasn't going to do that.

Calvin: ??? Null maybe?? IDK. He hasn't been here enough. I like how he tried to get the lynch off Ultra, but I don't like how he waited until he hardclaimed Blue to do so.

Sincerely: Town. I liked a few of her posts like the one she just did, she defended her reads with reasons, and question the logic of other players in a townie way. And she ate'd and i'm sucker for ate.

Krystal: celeb lol
over 8 years

antikrist says

Wait, Claire actually has a point.

Legitimately forgot (or didn't pay attention) N1 was cop.


if you're a PR with information I'd really like you to claim right now by the way, krist.

Also, claire, T_T...

And I know the place I thought anti townslipped had something to do with the comment on GF or killer but I'm drawing a blank suddenly. Furghj my memory
over 8 years
Blister, I still wanna know your reads, O reticent Kirigiri-esque figure whose allegiance was brought into question without very good evidence just now.
deletedover 8 years
you guys don't know my real masterplan
over 8 years
NEVERMIND IT ISNT AN ASSASSIN. THAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THE DAY. WE HAVE A SERIAL KILLER AMONGST US.

deletedover 8 years

Gerry says


Stragger says

I don't really care about mechanics, elaborate further on your reads.


Mechanics more important imo. And I already have, reread.


UltraAug says

the mafia could have a 1 shot vig


An assassin... Like I just said... lol


Do it again? I can reread but I want a fresher opinion. That readlist isn't much to me, which is why I asked you to elaborate.
over 8 years
Antikrist townslipped just now, too. I'll try and find where, but in the meantime, that "Blister's confirmed town" line? Yeah, I didn't like it either, but contradicting herself after people have brought up that he isn't clear by saying "assuming Blister's cop..." is DEFINITELY not an alignment tell and sounds like just the sort of sophist thing I imagine a mafia bringing up.

edit: The alternative solution is to lynch outside them. I don't know whom I want to flip on right now because I'm clearly townreading too easily. Calvin is null (though I had him leaning town) and his daystart was bad. I think Aug is town, and I don't like that anti is pushing on him, but again...

Aug/Claire are the two people I'm least likely to flip to right now. That's all I know, but even so, I don't think lynching in gerry and anti is optimal.
deletedover 8 years
Do you have alternative solutions?
over 8 years

Aug says

if blister was legit and anti and gerry were both mafia think the mafia would probably be anti/gerry/sincerely


IN WHAT WORLD do you think I'd OPENLY overlook BOTH partners as scum for this long?

YO. What the hell, guys?
First of all, I checked role mechanics and found this:

Meetings between players (mafia, masons, templars) will be facilitated [via] Skype, Discord, QuickTopics, or Private Messages [...]

Retti, couldn't Blist's claim have been orchestrated by a different member?

Also, IN NO WAY is anti an easy lynch. Krist, why the frik would you say that?? Like, why? IDFGI, if that wasn't clear. Retti legit said he doubted the lynch would be easy to get in you/Ger/Blis today -- and correctly, too. Then after you HAPPENED TO COME UP as a topic, he mentioned that he had planned to form a case against you and started pushing on you, even though I (whom you said you townread JN) was JUST (sorta) b!tching about Gerry calling you "kinda forced". Gerry changed you to null, and no one but Aug had really seemed to fos you until then, at least today. Retti's push is entirely out of the blue and you should absolutely not be an easy lynch, nor should you seem like one to yourself. That scares me. Speaking of which...

Retti, why would you vote Anti?! Do you think both Gerry and Anti are scum? You've said you do NOT think Blister is fake. Why lynch the two possible innos? Mechanically speaking, it is very suboptimal. There's only 1 SK, but there are surely at least 2 mafia. Could be more, since we lynched the vig. If you think that Blist's claim is real, which is fairly likely and which you've defended in chat, there is at least one antitown role outside of Ger/ant. If we lynch SK outside of them and have a ML at some point, it'll be close to auto.

I also feel like Retti isn't a team with Blister (...admittedly, mostly because of one post), and Retti's the main one I could see telling him to do something like that, so.
over 8 years

Stragger says

I don't really care about mechanics, elaborate further on your reads.


Mechanics more important imo. And I already have, reread.


UltraAug says

the mafia could have a 1 shot vig


An assassin... Like I just said... lol
over 8 years
the mafia could have a 1 shot vig