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Shillary Clinton Vs Donald Chump

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Or glorious throwaway votes to third party?

This can be the year where we get enough votes for third parties to actually be heard in politics in future elections a small 5% helps them get funding and 15% gets them into the debates.

1/3 of the the Republican party wont back Trump

About 10% of democrats wont support Clinton

The general public have unfavorable views of both candidates, this is an election a good portion of people dont want. This is a great time to push for third parties.

Throw away votes or blind loyalist?
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over 8 years
it seems to me that inevitably things fall into a two party system and this is ok except that the current voting system makes it difficult (impossible?) for any alternative party to ever gain real traction even if it starts a strong movement. i read about instant runoff voting and it seemed like a cool alternative, and now i'm chuckling thinking about how bad that would make things for trump.
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TheeCake says


Germatron says

Im unsure if you used "remember al gore" as an argument for why meetterry was right...or you think that it can be an argument for proving him wrong....


Al Gore won the popular vote but lost to GWB


how does that have anything to do with 3 parties vs 2 parties? I guess I see your point about "minority choosing the president" but you can see how much bigger of a problem it is with 3 parties. GWB won with the majority of the delegates, just not the popular vote. 3 parties could cause someone to win with a minority of delegates and popular vote.

I thought you were referring to Nader taking a lot of Gore's voters, who if they voted for Gore, probably would have won him the election
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Germatron says

Im unsure if you used "remember al gore" as an argument for why meetterry was right...or you think that it can be an argument for proving him wrong....


Al Gore won the popular vote but lost to GWB
over 8 years
At this point I feel like the four people running should all break off into their own parties, just for this election, for the sake of Bernie or Cruz having a chance over their far more disliked alternatives (though I can't say I'm terribly fond of anyone this time around--but I prefer Bernie's honesty and Cruz's integrity over the terrible garbage matchup in our future). It's happened before; if only one of them broke off, though, all it would do is divide the party and give the win to the other party. Can you say Bull-Moose party? It's bad news unless it's split evenly.

Something like Hillary - Liberal Party, Cruz - Conservative/Constitutionalist Party, Bernie - Socialist/Democratic Socialist Party, and Trump - ...actually, what does he stand for again? Wall-Building Party? Sure let's go with that.

Then again that might also suck so idk. I'm not very well-versed in politics and I don't pretend to be. I just can't bring myself to vote for Trump, no matter what, but Hillary scares me, too.
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Im unsure if you used "remember al gore" as an argument for why meetterry was right...or you think that it can be an argument for proving him wrong....
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TheeCake says


MeetTerry says

two party system prevents rule by minority

The system is inevitable. Having 5 different parties only breaks up a voter base.


Yeah... It doesn't. Besides the obvious "remember Al Gore?", just because options aren't present doesn't mean they are unwanted.


I think you misunderstood meetterry

easy(ish) solution to meetterry's problem is requiring a majority (of delegates) to be elected. and if no one has a majority, there's a runoff between the top two candidates
over 8 years
the republican party is falling apart
over 8 years

Fam says


aquarius says

everyone wants the two party system to die but its too ingrained in our culture to just disappear like that without some serious overhaul

it would take a lot more people than you mentioned to even make it a possible option


The point is getting them more exposure in mainstream media, you have to start somewhere



If you expect anyone to get mainstream media exposure with shitshow Trump creating daily memes you're living a fairy tale
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Kylo says


WildWalrus says

WHERE IS THE WALRUS OPTION?


For real dude? You break out your big boy brain for a complaints thread about the denotation of the rules but for this one about the fate of the world you're a freaking walrus again?


w a l r u s
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MeetTerry says


aquarius says

everyone wants the two party system to die but its too ingrained in our culture to just disappear like that without some serious overhaul

it would take a lot more people than you mentioned to even make it a possible option


tfw two party system is best and it always comes back

two party system prevents rule by minority

The system is inevitable. Having 5 different parties only breaks up a voter base.


where ya at in your chicago trump rally thread
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WildWalrus says

WHERE IS THE WALRUS OPTION?


For real dude? You break out your big boy brain for a complaints thread about the denotation of the rules but for this one about the fate of the world you're a freaking walrus again?
over 8 years
WHERE IS THE WALRUS OPTION?
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MeetTerry says


aquarius says

everyone wants the two party system to die but its too ingrained in our culture to just disappear like that without some serious overhaul

it would take a lot more people than you mentioned to even make it a possible option


tfw two party system is best and it always comes back

two party system prevents rule by minority

The system is inevitable. Having 5 different parties only breaks up a voter base.


Do you ever wonder why America has one of the lowest turnout rates for voting compared to other domestic countries. It might have something to do with people aren't feeling that either party truly represents them so they have no passion to vote.
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MeetTerry says

two party system prevents rule by minority

The system is inevitable. Having 5 different parties only breaks up a voter base.


Yeah... It doesn't. Besides the obvious "remember Al Gore?", just because options aren't present doesn't mean they are unwanted.
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aquarius says

everyone wants the two party system to die but its too ingrained in our culture to just disappear like that without some serious overhaul

it would take a lot more people than you mentioned to even make it a possible option


tfw two party system is best and it always comes back

two party system prevents rule by minority

The system is inevitable. Having 5 different parties only breaks up a voter base.
over 8 years
As much as I'd love Trump to send a FU to the establishment, he'd make a terrible president. Even if we don't know what Clinton would do, it can't be as bad as Trump.

If you don't live in a swing state and hate this 2 party system, please vote 3rd party. Jill Stein for Green or Gary Johnson for Libs, doesn't matter, if they become more relevant, perhaps we can change the way our flawed voting system works.

I'm in a swing state though, so unfortunately my vote goes to Shillary.
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aquarius says

everyone wants the two party system to die but its too ingrained in our culture to just disappear like that without some serious overhaul

it would take a lot more people than you mentioned to even make it a possible option


The point is getting them more exposure in mainstream media, you have to start somewhere
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Everyone wants feudalism to die but it's just too ingrained in our culture.


TTYL off to till the land for my lord.
over 8 years
everyone wants the two party system to die but its too ingrained in our culture to just disappear like that without some serious overhaul

it would take a lot more people than you mentioned to even make it a possible option
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Stove says

aha gree party is actually green in the poll.


Actually its kind of weird that they are apporpriate colors Libetarians are yellow/gold but yellowish orange is close enough
over 8 years
anarchy
over 8 years
aha gree party is actually green in the poll.