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about 9 years

There are a few things in comp that I think could be done better and I think we should try to continue making improvements. I have several ideas but I'm not gunna dump a huge blog on you guys rn. I'm just gunna address 1 issue for now. Just read this then vote on the poll, or dont, or whatever.

Skewed Score Payouts- The point of varying score payouts is to avoid giving out too many points to 1 faction if they are favored in that setup, but that's currently the opposite of what's happening in some cases. This can be seen in setups like b2ns and a&d, but there is usually at least 1 of these setups each round. This seems to be caused by mafia winning a lot more often in redheart games, causing townsided setups to give out 68+ points for a town win. This is an issue because this means rounds can be determined by what alignment you flip and what setup you play, or at least forces you into playing 1 setup.

Proposed Solution: Track winrates in redheart and comp games separately. Have score payout be based on comp winrate in comp lobbies. If a setup has no comp play, it would default to redheart payouts until it has like 30 comp plays. I don't see any downside to this solution. I'm willing to help with making the change!

Kinda unrelated but another change I wanted to make was to put town / mafia winrates for the current round on the round page. http://imgur.com/ZSuzTnz Just stick the winrates for that round under how many times it's been played. This would be helpful for if there is a newer setup being tried in comp, to give people an idea of how it's balanced.

Feel free to flame me or whatever now ~_~

What u think homies
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Seems ok
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Seems bad / stupid / etc
almost 9 years
pretty much every round has 1 balanced setup

if you want to play a setup with skewed points then you are taking a gamble because you might get the alignment that has low points payout. If you don't want to get a low amount of points then dont play those setups.
almost 9 years

poser says

you see, considering it's harder to win as town in b2ns and a&d, the points given are worth it because you earned it. it's not something that you can get as easily in janitorial 2.0, which is relatively balanced. all the payouts make sense


that's why you comp balanced setups so the round is actually F.A.I.R
about 9 years
Alternatively, blacklist A&D
about 9 years
The only downside is that a setup's stats have to take into account that sometimes the people playing it are bad and that's what makes the setup townsided/scumsided etc. But I really don't see a big deal with it honestly.
about 9 years
I suggested this a long time ago (without the 30 game red heart payout part) and I'd love to see it, but it requires lucid. Also idk if splitting from what games have already been played is possible.
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I like ur ideas pal
about 9 years

owl says


voluntaryloser says

solution: make nilly vanilly the only comp setup (comp it https://epicmafia.com/setup/1184056 )


It's nowhere near as good as Píss Flapping, sorry.

https://epicmafia.com/setup/1124755


Your pathetic setup is no match for https://epicmafia.com/setup/1205914
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I would like it to stay the same
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voluntaryloser says

solution: make nilly vanilly the only comp setup (comp it https://epicmafia.com/setup/1184056 )


It's nowhere near as good as Píss Flapping, sorry.

https://epicmafia.com/setup/1124755
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solution: make nilly vanilly the only comp setup (comp it https://epicmafia.com/setup/1184056 )
about 9 years
Solution:

Make every win worth 1 point.
about 9 years
you see, considering it's harder to win as town in b2ns and a&d, the points given are worth it because you earned it. it's not something that you can get as easily in janitorial 2.0, which is relatively balanced. all the payouts make sense
about 9 years

jacob404 says


Anna says


jacob404 says

I'm willing to help with making the change!


how would you help?


Well if they want my help, depending on what language this stuff is written in it shouldn't be too bad!


It's in Huizhou Chinese.
about 9 years

Anna says


jacob404 says

I'm willing to help with making the change!


how would you help?


Well if they want my help, depending on what language this stuff is written in it shouldn't be too bad!
about 9 years

jacob404 says

I'm willing to help with making the change!


how would you help?
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Froce says

or u can make all comp games have 60-60 payout no matter what.


most good setups are scumsided, why try to make people play the most townsided stuff that's passable in comp
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URA EMEMBER OF IISIS
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"Make Comp Great Again" woulda been an excellent title
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sweetnkind and Eris are my favorite posters
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this htearedd vcuzb i dk ghost vusters
about 9 years
yeah, those are good ideas i agree with probably everything in the OP
about 9 years
This has been an issue since inception and nothing has been done about it.
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billstickers did it better but in the end it doesn't matter
about 9 years
or u can make all comp games have 60-60 payout no matter what.
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