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Human Behaviour

ScarletWolf
about 9 years

So I read this book called "The Wave" and it was great.

A history teacher was asked by a student how the Nazis could do what they did (concentration camps and all) but the teacher has no answer to it. He says that the people who were doing those horrible things said that they were "just following orders" or that "if they disobeyed they'd be killed". However there's much more to that.

[SPOILER] The teacher then decides to do an experiment with his students but it goes out of control and a movement called "The Wave" is created (Which can be compared to the party). More and more people start joining the movement and the border between experimentation and reality becomes increasingly blurred ... Based on a true story btw.

So now, to get to what I'm trying to say here, In your opinions, WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE HUMAN BEHAVIOUR AND LEARNING FROM OUR MISTAKES (AND THE MISTAKES OF THOSE BEFORE US)?

Good luck answering the 1 million $ Q.

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Great.
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Scar pls.
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y u do dis
Satan
about 9 years
Anyone trying to change the world "for the better" is wrong. The most you can do is change the world to what you think is better.

Whatever you think might be the best thing for the world isn't shared by everyone else.
ScarletWolf
about 9 years

Shamzy says

...there are other reasons why people may obey.. such as "Justification" which an example of is "What we're doing here will change the world for the better" and such. It makes sense.



Thing is, how can they know if what they're doing will change the world for the better? There is no way to tell the concequences for their actions.

An example of this would be if we could go back in time and stop Hitler. I mean, people would think that would be a good think to do right? He killed millions of people, I'm sure there are people who'd like to give him some of that pain back.
So, we go back in time and stop Hitler. We shoot him (or do something else to stop him from doing what he did) before he can make his move.

See, the thing is, if we do this, there's no way of telling if it would be good or bad. I mean Hitler could've been the better option cuz there could've been a worse Hitler if we had stopped him. + Because of Hitler we can now learn of history and try not to repeat the same mistake, no?
Satan
about 9 years
Scientists used to waterboard animals to test their dive response, or less scientifically known as the "master switch of life". and they figured out all about the dive response, but it happened for everything not just marine mammals...we even have it.


sucks for the animals they waterboarded back then
roadman
about 9 years
The ethical board restricts so much in terms of social research. Pretty much everything has to be as non invasive as possible.
Anthony
about 9 years
psychology experiments before there were actual ethical requirements were fascinating
roadman
about 9 years

ScarletWolf says


roadman says

You should also look up the Stanford Prison experiment. It's somewhat relevant.


o definitely gonna watch the movie!!!!!!


Wtf. I had no idea.
ScarletWolf
about 9 years

roadman says

You should also look up the Stanford Prison experiment. It's somewhat relevant.


o definitely gonna watch the movie!!!!!!
Shamzy
about 9 years
I've actually seen this example quite a lot. In Psychology this is referred to as the "Agentic Shift". What it simply means is that an individual may see themselves as an "agent" carrying out wishes of another person, and so they do not point blame on themselves. So the "Nazis" may have just seen themselves as agents carrying out orders from hitler etc etc. I agree with it to an extent. You can search up on it if you want, and there are other reasons why people may obey.. such as "Justification" which an example of is "What we're doing here will change the world for the better" and such. It makes sense.

As for your question, it's important to understand human behaviour because it allows you to appreciate and comprehend. That in its own should be a sufficient answer.
Froce
about 9 years
good, they should turn it into a movie asap so i can actually be interested in it.
ScarletWolf
about 9 years

roadman says

Also, Scarlet, you should look up Stanley Milgram.


Yeah I know of it. Doctor tells people to keep going and they do and most of them take it to the highest lvl just cuz it's a Dr. telling them to do so for the experiment.
roadman
about 9 years
You should also look up the Stanford Prison experiment. It's somewhat relevant.
roadman
about 9 years
Also, Scarlet, you should look up Stanley Milgram.
LeMeJoe
about 9 years
HIS HORSE'S NAME WAS FRIDAY.
roadman
about 9 years
At least with Hitler there was only one major scapegoat. SJWs are in abundance. Not only that, but they flock together like a bad rash.
Anthony
about 9 years
oh god you're right that was atrocious. rephrase: Is saying that SJW's are more annoying than Hitler considered distasteful?
roadman
about 9 years
Oh, sorry. That was a weird sentence to read.

It's not distasteful. It's actually completely accurate.
roadman
about 9 years

Anthony says


roadman says


Anthony says

Well Hitler didn't believe he was doing anything wrong. In fact, he believed that what he was doing was for the good of humanity.


SJWs are essentially Hitler.


is saying SJW are more annoying distasteful?


...What?
Anthony
about 9 years

roadman says


Anthony says

Well Hitler didn't believe he was doing anything wrong. In fact, he believed that what he was doing was for the good of humanity.


SJWs are essentially Hitler.


is saying SJW are more annoying distasteful?
ScarletWolf
about 9 years

sweetnkind says

are you trying to get epicmafia to do your homework


Pls, these are things I was thinking of after reading that book.. Not homework.
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are you trying to get epicmafia to do your homework
roadman
about 9 years

Anthony says

Well Hitler didn't believe he was doing anything wrong. In fact, he believed that what he was doing was for the good of humanity.


SJWs are essentially Hitler.
Anna
about 9 years
It isn't
Anthony
about 9 years
Well Hitler didn't believe he was doing anything wrong. In fact, he believed that what he was doing was for the good of humanity. In order to prevent this kind of behavior from happening again we would have to essentially condition people to have a set of morals, and since humanity can't really agree on that it doesn't seem likely (my opinion)
Helba
about 9 years

ScarletWolf says


Giga says

The answer is so that we can (ideally) detect behaviour like this and act on it to prevent it from happening on a mass-scale yet again

Which I sadly believe is inevitable but once (if?) a lot more of the world becomes educated then who knows


Then again if we were to educate the "wrong" people about this, they could end up using it for their advantage and become the next Hitler. Tbh, I wouldn't find that too surprising.


I've been thinking about this myself. Like, what if there's another Charles Whitman, but instead of Charles Whitman he's another guy. Like another name and everything and no one ever would even see him coming. It's real messed up that they'd let everyone know about the first Charles, because like the next guy's gonna snipe people even harder. It's scary stuff.
ScarletWolf
about 9 years

Giga says

The answer is so that we can (ideally) detect behaviour like this and act on it to prevent it from happening on a mass-scale yet again

Which I sadly believe is inevitable but once (if?) a lot more of the world becomes educated then who knows


Then again if we were to educate the "wrong" people about this, they could end up using it for their advantage and become the next Hitler. Tbh, I wouldn't find that too surprising.