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Also, I understand that it was the battle flag, and not the confederacy's actual flag. but that's beside the point in this discussion.

I'm from South Carolina, and I must say.... around here everyone has been told from the time that they were little that this flag is "the rebel flag" IE the flag of the south in the civil war. IE it was our people's flag.

" Displaying the Confederate battle flag should tell you that the person who did that is either a racist or a bigot." ......

Around here, that's often simply not true. Granted, lots of people with this flag are racist, AND it was put on the state house BECAUSE of racist sentiments. But most of the time, it's not any more a symbol of hatred than the american flag is.

The weird thing here is that there are two groups of people with the same flag: racists that see/use it as a symbol of racial hatred, and rednecks that see it as a symbol of their people.

When you live in SC, you'll see plenty of black people with these flags on their trucks too, which doesn't really add up with your assessment of them being racists. Unless you are suggesting they are self hating blacks? IDK.....

Flying the confed flag is fine, it just lets everyone know your sister's taken.

I am also not saying we should ban it. I am saying we should vilify it, demonize it, and outright call out the people who do those things and shame them for it. There is no need for violence and no such need has been echo'd by me, so I'm not sure where you get that sentiment from. Nor was there a call for violence against such peoples, so again I am unclear where you're pulling that out of. Besides, I'm pretty sure anyone who took U.S. history from a state that didn't revise history in favor of the South can tell you why that flag is a bad idea, so if one is curious why that flag is a bad idea, they need only ask.

And yes, a flag is a flag, but seeing it does influence people's thoughts, it's absurd to think otherwise. A flag is like any other image, showing it will influence people. Showing a picture of a guy spreading his butt cheeks is going to gross some people out. Showing a picture of kittens is going to calm most people down. Displaying the Confederate battle flag should tell you that the person who did that is either a racist or a bigot.

Political correctness is a sham. If you have to be correct for the sake of politics, you're a terrible person, end of story. Be respectful to others because they ask you to (either implicitly or explicitly), not because you're afraid of being called a racist.

The flag only came back in the 60s as a symbol of anti-civil rights movement. Hate speech is not free speech. There is actually legal precedent for this lol.

I am not saying you should not vilify it, make them feel the minority for waving it if you wish, but I don't care if it is a National Socialism flag, confederate flag or a flag with puppies on a skewer. Telling people they can't display a flag begs the question why? If they are foolish few, what damage can they pose? If they are a radical many, then how will an initiation of force solve the problem? Threatening violence to remove the physical manifestation of ones prejudice, doesn't solve the social issue.

Political correctness is dangerous, it allows a road map for bigots, racist and fools to avoid being called out on their ignorance, and ask why they think such things?

A flag is merely a flag, seeing it or taking it away isn't going to influence someones thoughts. And it seems we are always are wasting our time discussing the pointless endeavor of attacking the symptom rather than the problem. How does outlawing a flag help ones racial prejudice?

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When people raise the Confederate battle flag, what they're saying is hardly related to their freedom of speech. You're wrongly associating that scenario with that particular sentiment, because in reality, most people are not putting up that particular flag because they believe in freedom of speech. They're doing it for many particular reasons, some of which include racially motivated ones. Those reasons in particular are what makes the flag an issue.

Now I'm no policy maker so I'm not gonna bother talking about legal course of action. However, as a people who aim to be decent, simply ignoring them is a terrible thing to do. You must vilify it, you must make it loud and clear that it's the wrong thing to do. It may not have to be an illegal thing to do, but if you want to be a decent person, you mustn't turn a blind eye.

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Banning people from freedom of expression, merely gives merit and weight to what they are saying. If you disagree or find it offensive, ignoring them is always the best method.

People die everyday for many nefarious reasons, that doesn't make any other issue less of an issue just because the fact that murder and death persist in the country and out of it. The flag is considered an issue because for many years, many peoples have waved it around proudly and on some occasions hoisted them up in public places for all to see, but due to recent events, such peoples have been faced with the surmounting backlash of those actions. Some state governments have started taking down such displays, but more importantly, the general public at large is becoming more disdained of those displays, enough to discourage further displaying. Thus it is considered a major issue as it affects many people across many states. How long such sentiments last and how deeply they're scarred into the psyche of the public are different questions, but for now, it indeed can be considered a major issue.

I don't think that stupid flag could really be considered a major issue. I mean honestly, there's people killing each other all over the world, and that things a piece of fabric with some paint on it lol. I'm in SC, and we all hate the thing.

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And the stuff going on about taking down the Confederacy Flag. Geez major issues are going down in the USA.