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Cogent is Prevail

vilden
over 9 years

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I read one of Cogent's games earlier and thought "Okay, this is Prevail." The more games I read, the more obvious it became

Then I put this together and the people I showed it to are like: "Hmm interesting" http://i.imgur.com/0dOBGmR.jpg

This is a repeated line -- they start/finish a game with the same phrase: http://i.imgur.com/2SVtUjz.png

People will ask, "Why wouldn't she change her MO/speech pattern/or style of play? She'd be too obvious." The people who ask that are just noobs who can't see the obvious

She prob doesn't care about disguising herself with someone like Arcbell cloaking her, plus all her friends willing to protect her, plus all her mod friends. For the legit mods, it is too much work to find convincing evidence and she knows that (plus she got away with trophying last time -- in round 300 -- so why wouldn't she feel confident this time).

I see obvious abc-like accounts that resurrected from 23 months of inactivity to play only one game this round with Cogent, like Crazee playing this game> •Crazee lawyers no one both nights

Abc's accounts generally fit a basic criteria / have the same looking profile (i.e. their statistics). They play mostly fancy pants to around 1500 pts then play a few competitive games before retiring the account. Sometimes ancient accounts pop up to play 1-2 games during a round

Here's Warpig, the most obvious abc account I've seen. He plays this game with Cogent/Prevail, and it's worth a read

If you're still not convinced here is jinchuuriki; it came back after 5 months to play one game. He vegged a town autoloss in favor of Cogent: game/4069731/review. Here are his reports from 5 months ago: http://i.imgur.com/FHAxjgS.jpg

Anyways I bet it's easier to prove this is banned user Prevail rather than someone cheating with multiple abc-like accts. And since we know Prevail cheats with abc, finding these accts in Cogent's games links it closer to actually being Prevail

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Oh touché I rarely read ops, so no I didn't lol but yeah it might not be abc alts, it might not be prevail but .... U know
blacksnakemoan
over 9 years
This is a story all about how,
Supernova cheated all through the round,
And I'd like to make a pastebin,
Just sit right there,
And I'll tell you how he cheated his way up there.

On this site EpicMafia, with meta and plays,
In Jan 2.0 is where he spent most of his days,
Lynchin', 'n' killin, 'n' filling all game,
And winning his way to third place fame,
When a couple of mods suspected a scam,
Suspended the round, and questioned the fam,
Well there was one little thread, and it all came out
and Mist took the trophy with a helluva shout.

So he called it a bus, and they took another look,
The throws were there, and that's all it took,
If anything, the mods could have thrown the book,
But nah, they said, SuperNova can't cook.

They unpaused the round, and the show went on,
Super had his trophy, a brilliant bronze,
But he looked up above, and it was still there,
A Cogent man in gold, with no avatar flair.
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Devante says

Also mist no one is implying he is cheating with abc


did you even read the OP?

I'm not saying he isn't a banned user btw I was Just Making A Point
deletedover 9 years
Where did he say that to u pranay was it in a game ?
panthero
over 9 years
cogent claims to be a new user who happens to know all about me and others who existed before his time? Explanation is that he heard about me in training games. I don't see any mention of me in any training games he happened to be.
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Hibiki says

previal is not the only person to say OK. i say OK too


It's not saying "OK." That's interesting, it's the fact that he says OK. Frequently to begin night meetings, like prevai did often, I can't think of anyone who does that. It's not damnding evidence but it's somethig that deserves an eyebrow raise ;)

Also mist no one is implying he is cheating with abc, he cheated with Anthony before in a similar fashion so it's not completely unrealistic to think that a three time cheater will cheat again, 2 rounds later.

It might not even be Prevail, but if you're arguing that it's a new user or an old user who's account was deleted and no one knows him you're foolish for even considering that
mandevian
over 9 years
if cogent is not prevail, then who is cogent? He certainly isn't cogent. He has to be someone else too.
blacksnakemoan
over 9 years

Hibiki says

previal is not the only person to say OK. i say OK too


OK.
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OK.
Hibiki
over 9 years
previal is not the only person to say OK. i say OK too
deletedover 9 years
like beyond the fact that the dude is a toad who spends nothing more of his free time than trying to out maneuver everyone back into power and fails miserably, he's also just a wretched person who uses people, living or not
deletedover 9 years
if you have any contact with arcbell after having a decent idea of the things he's done in regards to gary/bell then i greatly question you
Sims
over 9 years
i say OK
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Orly has joined Dibbun. Damn
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Shmeur says

not reading this but yeah prevail is obvious because she always does says OK.
who tf else does that


me
SuperNova
over 9 years
Is LimitBender abc?

Anyway is trophy mine or do we have to play another day in comp?
vilden
over 9 years

soda says

What if Cogent was a Prevail/Arcbell hydra? At times Cogent played the "I really don't care just carry me" way like Prevail dies and then the ridiculously annoying way like Arcbell does.


The context behind this is that Arcbell is sending info to mods and me that Cogent is some legit, obscure, deleted account whose name I won't leak. You never would have heard of it though
Shmeur
over 9 years
not reading this but yeah prevail is obvious because she always does says OK.
who tf else does that
Gio
over 9 years
this is it. this is what june 1st brought, at midnight
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this is a thing. why is this a thing. lmaooo

edit: just the star not mist as a person
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mist says

caustic

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mandevian says

a dumb person like you does not even know what implications to make of a statement.


Okay pranay, since you're so quick to write me off I'll grant you the same.

You're welcome for pausing the round.
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3 pages in and it's still lol.
deletedover 9 years
What if Cogent was a Prevail/Arcbell hydra? At times Cogent played the "I really don't care just carry me" way like Prevail dies and then the ridiculously annoying way like Arcbell does.
kylehlp123
over 9 years
Can we just permanently ban prevail, like no exceptions from this point on, she keeps getting banned for cheating then somehow gets unbanned then trophies right in front of the mods with her main account cuz the new reign of mods are too dumb to realize that she always cheats until it's too late. Then when those mods figure it out they step down, new mods come in, and the cycle continues.