Round 289 Discussion

jack

almost 11 years

Congratulations to the winners of Round 285!

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catbae

almost 11 years

the disguiser hasn't been a problem whatsoever in the past month

Shmeur

almost 11 years

catboy says

how does that grannie setup even work

it's essentially 4 blues 2 thieves

Shmeur

almost 11 years

town can also force NK [theoretically]

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how does that grannie setup even work

Giga13

almost 11 years

Well once you get it to even numbers anyway it doesn't even matter

I would just remove that element entirely. If it was intended, it should have been dawnstart with one less blue

Sims

almost 11 years

setup of the year

Shmeur

almost 11 years

Giga13 says

Nilly Vanilly is broken. Mafia can force NK into even numbers and the village can't do jack about it (unless this was intended)

Remove must lynch in it

i think the point is that maf nk until a maf is lynched

Giga13

almost 11 years

Nilly Vanilly is broken. Mafia can force NK into even numbers and the village can't do jack about it (unless this was intended)

Remove must lynch/must act in it

Shmeur

almost 11 years

huh ?

Orly

almost 11 years

except that you cant, and you can only watch as you slowly veg without the ability to select anything in the menu option.

Shmeur

almost 11 years

guiser can just guise-visit somebody else

Orly

almost 11 years

caroler setup needs to be decomped. guiser is forced to guise, and guiser is broken. once you guise, you veg on the next night, since you are unable to select anything in the guise visit menu on that night.

also these setups are all really, really bad, and you 3 should be ashamed.

deletedalmost 11 years

https://epicmafia.com/game/3909065

windupParadox

almost 11 years

5 extra hearts, this round is mine! (lol nah I'll let em decay)

Boring setups tbh.

animegayboy69

almost 11 years

EV gives 70% scum winrate on nilly vanilly, i was being conservative in my guess. it could possibly come out at 75% scum win if it were to get enough plays, which it won't

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I think nilly vanilly caters to me simply because I don't get lynched very often. I hope it fills, I want to run on it.

animegayboy69

almost 11 years

Apostasy says

It's like STBS with 2 MLs and no templars Gira. Seems townsided to me

simple mathematics say it's inherently extremely scumsided and town win rates for vanilla setups tend to play down

Polo

almost 11 years

Apos I think the two clears is worth more than the ml. I'd be surprised if it were townsided. To clarify, even though both nilly vanilly and the setup I decomped are really untested, the problem is that it may lean fairly or very townsided while still giving out 60 points for town wins.