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Round 289 Discussion

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the disguiser hasn't been a problem whatsoever in the past month
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catboy says

how does that grannie setup even work


it's essentially 4 blues 2 thieves
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town can also force NK [theoretically]
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how does that grannie setup even work
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Well once you get it to even numbers anyway it doesn't even matter

I would just remove that element entirely. If it was intended, it should have been dawnstart with one less blue
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setup of the year
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Giga13 says

Nilly Vanilly is broken. Mafia can force NK into even numbers and the village can't do jack about it (unless this was intended)

Remove must lynch in it


i think the point is that maf nk until a maf is lynched
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Nilly Vanilly is broken. Mafia can force NK into even numbers and the village can't do jack about it (unless this was intended)

Remove must lynch/must act in it
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huh ?
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except that you cant, and you can only watch as you slowly veg without the ability to select anything in the menu option.
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guiser can just guise-visit somebody else
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caroler setup needs to be decomped. guiser is forced to guise, and guiser is broken. once you guise, you veg on the next night, since you are unable to select anything in the guise visit menu on that night.


also these setups are all really, really bad, and you 3 should be ashamed.
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5 extra hearts, this round is mine! (lol nah I'll let em decay)

Boring setups tbh.
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EV gives 70% scum winrate on nilly vanilly, i was being conservative in my guess. it could possibly come out at 75% scum win if it were to get enough plays, which it won't
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I think nilly vanilly caters to me simply because I don't get lynched very often. I hope it fills, I want to run on it.
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Apostasy says

It's like STBS with 2 MLs and no templars Gira. Seems townsided to me


simple mathematics say it's inherently extremely scumsided and town win rates for vanilla setups tend to play down
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Apos I think the two clears is worth more than the ml. I'd be surprised if it were townsided. To clarify, even though both nilly vanilly and the setup I decomped are really untested, the problem is that it may lean fairly or very townsided while still giving out 60 points for town wins.
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Wish we had a wiki to look stuff up Lol kaapa
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I only play fp so :shrug:
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It's like STBS with 2 MLs and no templars Gira. Seems townsided to me
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animegayboy69 says


Slow says

what the heck does sunset do


it just means the day doesn't end immediately when someone hammers. it's very dumb.


oh, am I wrong here? Idk
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Apostasy says

If I win gold on nilly vanilly am I going to get s*** for winning it on nilly vanilly?


that would be incredibly impressive given that it's likely to go 65%+ scum-sided and will only be played by absolutely horrible players
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Slow says

what the heck does sunset do


it just means the day doesn't end immediately when someone hammers. it's very dumb.