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Should guise tests be considered OGI?

Because I was recently in a guiser game, one that will be comped starting tomorrow and the town found guiser because of guiser tests, and the person the guiser guised joined another game and appeared in the lobby, and the guiser visited the profile of the person he is guising.

Is any of this outside game influence? It seems like it should be, as it breaks the setup.

Are guiser tests like those listed above OGI?
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Yes
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No
deletedover 9 years
I'd feel much happier with lyncher in comp.
over 9 years
epicmafia journal entry #1: there are two guise setups comped...i'm afraid this is the end for me, this will be my last entry.
deletedover 9 years
Result: 2 guise setups are comped.
over 9 years

Harrold says


Satan says

don't comp guise setups




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or you know, don't use something like a profile to influence in-game actions.
over 9 years

Hibiki says


BearGuru says

a town noticed the person he was disguising was playing in another game, and he visited their profile


these aren't guise tests fwiw


This is OGI if someone uses it, bear. I assume this is what your mean by the OP, and this isn't even considered guisetesting. It's one of those unwritten greyish areas that is never regarded because you can never tell if the person saw that the guy who they guised left the game or not, but if caught then it's instant OGI

An easy fix for this: Once a game with a guiser in it begins, nobody can leave it until the game ends. That would be easy for lucid to code and would solve this problem because more people likely use this to their advantage without willing to admit it
over 9 years
if a setup requires n1 guise for mafia to win, town are going to win 99% of the time
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Satan says

don't comp guise setups

over 9 years
IF the town mentions that the person joined another game then it is ogi. If the town had used it to know that he is guised and tried to convince others without letting them know or without asking them to check that the person joined another game then there would be no evidence to prove that the person used outside influence.
over 9 years

BearGuru says

a town noticed the person he was disguising was playing in another game, and he visited their profile


these aren't guise tests fwiw
over 9 years
Yeah, it's a problem with the rule, not the players, so there's no real sense in punishing the people that take advantage of it. We should just encourage setup makers to stop using the role, because it sucks
over 9 years
to answer OP: no
over 9 years
Just remove the role all together because cri evry tiem
over 9 years
don't comp guise setups
over 9 years
if u have friends in the mod team they probs will
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itg321 says

yeah, any good town knows that's a possible mechanic and should slowly push on guiser without saying so. explicitly saying so IS OGI though


So can games be refunded due to this?
over 9 years
yeah, any good town knows that's a possible mechanic and should slowly push on guiser without saying so. explicitly saying so IS OGI though
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In the game I was in, the disguiser was playing really well until a town noticed the person he was disguising was playing in another game, and he visited their profile, and failed a guise test. It ruins the setup.
over 9 years
just make sure u dont say so :^)
deletedover 9 years
anything that only the dead player would know that is asked to the guiser should def be considered ogi
over 9 years
as long as you dont explicitly mention it in game

like how it's ideal for one to 'foss' runners on the basis of ensuring a trophy :^)