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Improving Round Diversity

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Alright so the 'banning guns' thread gave me an idea and I'd like to make a separate thread outlinining my thoughts and see if it's something the competitive community would be interested in pursuing.

Current System

  • A setup can only be comped once every 3 rounds
  • Variants are at mod discretion on a case-by-case basis

Proposed Changes

  • A setup can only be comped once every 5 rounds
  • Established variants kept on a running list (that will be public); new variants looked at by mods on a case-by-case basis

Goals

  • Improve diversity: This would mean that you'd only see certain setups at minimum every 50 days or 2 months or so (assuming ~10 day rounds). At minimum, you would see 30 different setups before seeing the same one comped again, allowing for a greater variety of setups to get exposure and giving people an opportunity to run on setups they like that may be less popular.
  • Tighten up what constitutes as a variant: makes things more objective and less on what the current admin/mod team thinks. This way there won't be as much debate over what is a variant or not the day of the round, it'll be pre-established and known, so people will know what they can and cannot comp

Please discuss. I'd also like to hear what the current mods think of this since they're the ones who will be enforcing this.

I could ship this
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I agree with the OP
Do you like this idea?
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Yes
10
No
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Yes, but with some changes
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I don't really care
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Lashka says

Mods don't impose the setup rules they already have (see: A&R). Why add more for them to impose!?


as perviously noted i asked moderator jackhammer's permission to comp the variant
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Sidekick says


alise says

comp fancypants


request noted and will be carried out on your behalf next time i trophy


Classic has been banned from being comped
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Mods don't impose the setup rules they already have (see: A&R). Why add more for them to impose!?
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Fancypants is the greatest scumhunting setup ever. Good for competitive mafia.

by the way I think the current system is ok
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mods shouldn't do that
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anyone from the single lobby days remembers when lucid used to impose loose setup requirements each round like "one setup must have a fool" or "one setup has to be day start." mods should do that
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alise says

comp fancypants


request noted and will be carried out on your behalf next time i trophy
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Ban fancy pants = Panaceum to all problems with Epicmafia
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comp fancypants
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animegayboy69 says

in order to improve round diversity, we need more black & hispanic setups


racist against asians
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That's subjective
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Mine says

It involves a gun, therefore should be category placed into that group.


They actually have to scum hunt though
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I think we should be able to comp whatever we want :P And mods should not change what we want :)
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It involves a gun, therefore should be category placed into that group.
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Thebronto, why you never did this as an admin, but you are giving it for a discussion now :)
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Mine says


thebrontosaurus says

yeah even if the 3rd round rule stays, I'd like to see a list of what's considered a variant so it isn't always a judgment call.


Like you could have A&D (if unblacklisted) + variants + HI + FJ2 etc. all restricted to every 3 rounds.


I would say HI is different
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Didn't Connor make a list of these already?
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thebrontosaurus says

yeah even if the 3rd round rule stays, I'd like to see a list of what's considered a variant so it isn't always a judgment call.


Like you could have A&D (if unblacklisted) + variants + HI + FJ2 etc. all restricted to every 3 rounds.
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thebrontosaurus says


Jaleb says

Can we consider FJ2 = A&D? Same with VDLI=WWtW?


those setups aren't really variants of each other though.


They play exactly the same. Sheriff n1'd=gs hooked. Watcher an unconfirmed bp
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yeah even if the 3rd round rule stays, I'd like to see a list of what's considered a variant so it isn't always a judgment call.
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Also yeah the 3 rule is OK as long as variants are actually policed and banned by the moderators. ref.: A&R
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i don't see any problem with the system we have now. i also think 5 rounds is too long
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in order to improve round diversity, we need more black & hispanic setups
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This might be an unpopular opinion

But I'd like all the gun setup criteria to be restricted to 3/round as opposed to the regular a&d variant being limited to 3.
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No. If people comp all the decent setups in the first 3-4 rounds then you're basically guaranteed a round of crap.