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I'm going to try and summarize the thoughts that have been swirling in my head for the past couple of months.

The mods are treated in the most disrespectful and toxic way that is completely unjustified. It amazes me how often I feel that the people who willingly take care of complaints and try (i say this heavily) to manage 60 reports on a normal basis somehow find the time and energy to put up with someone cussing them out or demanded they be demodded over a trivial matter such as a report outcome. I'm not saying that criticism isn't valid or that you shouldn't question some decisions, but the least you can do is be courteous. There was a reason laexio was so admired and it was that he made sure that the needs of the mods came before the needs of the players, because in reality, the mods are the backbone of the community. I can't make anyone agree with me, but understand how unsatisfying, how frustrating and how unnerving it can be to simply log onto epicmafia knowing that the community will always be against you. It is why the pool of mods is so staggeringly low.

The forums do not need to be moderated heavily, they serve a niche and are irrelevant to more than a quarter of the playerbase. The IC rule is broken and stupid. Google, or lucid for that matter, does not care about a couple of asteriks on the screen. They're a complete non-issue and it baffles me in the times I've been just a player that I've seen unneeded measures taken to control 'chaos' going on in the forums. The best solution is to let things die out because people get bored of hearing themselves talk, or posting badly for that matter.

The report system is abused and is inherently flawed. There is no reason for mods have to deal with 70-80 reports in a day. That is not a problem with the mods, that's a problem with the community. I've never been on a site where I've seen such a staggeringly high number of complaints in a single day. It sucks that things will always stay like this, but I bring this back to my original paragraph to the mods, and that you really do not give them the credit they deserve.

I want to condense this all and say this is my formal and public resignation from modding. These couple past months as a mod have been pure hell and I have lost all motivation and desire to go further. I enjoyed helping the community and doing my best to see to it that I did what I felt was right, but the strain is not worth it and I feel that all that effort I am putting into epicmafia modding could be put to better use. I had a goal of one day possibly being admin, but I don't think that is what I want or need to do for that matter.

later

over 10 years
oh god trial mods

i wiped that from my memory tbh
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Nonon says

ok you know what, there were valid criticisms. but i liked him and knew he had his heart in the right place and you all hate him and i hate that you hate him


i don't hate him, i just think he clinically failed in every aspect that was required of an admin. hating him implies i know or care about him as a dude. i don't hate anyone on em............ except myself...
over 10 years
justrec maybe you should stop posting

(it's pretty bad when i tell someone to stop posting)
over 10 years

Nonon says

arcbell was fighting an uphill battle from the get-go


he wasn't. nobody complained about him until he started pushing his ideals about trial mods on everyone
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ok you know what, there were valid criticisms. but i liked him and knew he had his heart in the right place and you all hate him and i hate that you hate him
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i can't imagine why
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justrec says


retti says


justrec says

hey shacky, come tell me how you really feel instead of plussing every comment of someone that talks crap to me lmfao


Yeah, but are you mad?


not really. judging by this thread though, it would seem you are XD


im mad...at your posting.
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arcbell was fighting an uphill battle from the get-go
over 10 years

retti says


justrec says

hey shacky, come tell me how you really feel instead of plussing every comment of someone that talks crap to me lmfao


Yeah, but are you mad?


not really. judging by this thread though, it would seem you are XD
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the reason arcbell was torn into was because he had bad ideas, made no effort to communicate them with his mod team, and didn't listen to all the (valid) complaints users had with both him and his ideas.
over 10 years
justrec what do you do for a living i'm genuinely curious
over 10 years
i really feel that your opinion is irrelevant, you're a complete hypocrite that complains about being bullied and then goes around treating everyone in games like crap, and you're wrong about arcbell too
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justrec says

hey shacky, come tell me how you really feel instead of plussing every comment of someone that talks crap to me lmfao


Yeah, but are you mad?
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shacky is sims dude
over 10 years
lol this guy
over 10 years
hey shacky, come tell me how you really feel instead of plussing every comment of someone that talks crap to me lmfao
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as someone who got arcbell de-admined, i can say that i never once liked him nor had any aspirations of being a mod when beheading him.
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justrec says


retti says


justrec says

Did you just say the mods are being treated in the most toxic way? Really? Is this not how epic mafia operates? As long as you get your point across, right? As long as we think it is justified... right?

Doesn't this sound familiar? Only the last time it was 10x worse to a certain admin? Oh but that's different! You're right, it was different. That time, the person being disrespected stayed silent and didn't talk back to the people who were concerned. He didn't try and make good posts sarcastically as responses.

"I can't make anyone agree with me, but understand how unsatisfying, how frustrating and how unnerving it can be to simply log onto epicmafia knowing that the community will always be against you. "

Man, if only a few of us had that opinion back then.


nobody cares about your opinion and you poop your pants trying to theoretically sh*t out a coherent argument


Nobody cares about you crying and moaning about being hated when you dish out hate yourself. Suck it up buddy.


dont self-project
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he's talking about how everyone treated arcbell, and he has a fair point
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justrec says

Did you just say the mods are being treated in the most toxic way? Really? Is this not how epic mafia operates? As long as you get your point across, right? As long as we think it is justified... right?

Doesn't this sound familiar? Only the last time it was 10x worse to a certain admin? Oh but that's different! You're right, it was different. That time, the person being disrespected stayed silent and didn't talk back to the people who were concerned. He didn't try and make good posts sarcastically as responses.

"I can't make anyone agree with me, but understand how unsatisfying, how frustrating and how unnerving it can be to simply log onto epicmafia knowing that the community will always be against you. "

Man, if only a few of us had that opinion back then.




(╥﹏╥) feels
over 10 years

retti says


justrec says

Did you just say the mods are being treated in the most toxic way? Really? Is this not how epic mafia operates? As long as you get your point across, right? As long as we think it is justified... right?

Doesn't this sound familiar? Only the last time it was 10x worse to a certain admin? Oh but that's different! You're right, it was different. That time, the person being disrespected stayed silent and didn't talk back to the people who were concerned. He didn't try and make good posts sarcastically as responses.

"I can't make anyone agree with me, but understand how unsatisfying, how frustrating and how unnerving it can be to simply log onto epicmafia knowing that the community will always be against you. "

Man, if only a few of us had that opinion back then.


nobody cares about your opinion and you poop your pants trying to theoretically sh*t out a coherent argument


Nobody cares about you crying and moaning about being hated when you dish out hate yourself. Suck it up buddy.
over 10 years
arcbell was being criticized for being bad. there was a certain mob mentality behind it, but he was a bad admin that made bad decisions and deserved to be taken down. that's completely different than hating mods just to hate mods
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justrec says

Did you just say the mods are being treated in the most toxic way? Really? Is this not how epic mafia operates? As long as you get your point across, right? As long as we think it is justified... right?

Doesn't this sound familiar? Only the last time it was 10x worse to a certain admin? Oh but that's different! You're right, it was different. That time, the person being disrespected stayed silent and didn't talk back to the people who were concerned. He didn't try and make good posts sarcastically as responses.

"I can't make anyone agree with me, but understand how unsatisfying, how frustrating and how unnerving it can be to simply log onto epicmafia knowing that the community will always be against you. "

Man, if only a few of us had that opinion back then.


nobody cares about your opinion
over 10 years
Did you just say the mods are being treated in the most toxic way? Really? Is this not how epic mafia operates? As long as you get your point across, right? As long as we think it is justified... right?

Doesn't this sound familiar? Only the last time it was 10x worse to a certain admin? Oh but that's different! You're right, it was different. That time, the person being disrespected stayed silent and didn't talk back to the people who were concerned. He didn't try and make good posts sarcastically as responses.

"I can't make anyone agree with me, but understand how unsatisfying, how frustrating and how unnerving it can be to simply log onto epicmafia knowing that the community will always be against you. "

Man, if only a few of us had that opinion back then.
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Giga13 says

Retti before you go can you teach me how to make better posts


dont