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Riddle

pranay7744
over 9 years

If on a 3 way lylo-

3 blues are alive and all mafia are dead in gy.

Who will win if a blue is lynched-

A- village because all mafia are dead

B- Mafia because villager is getting lynched on 3 way

Think properly. This is not a joke riddle. It is a trick riddle.

Atrophy
over 9 years

Steven says

Well, by definition, mafia can't win if there are no mafia alive (assuming of course a yakked blue would be considered not-blue anymore in the riddle.

So by process of elimination it must be A. I would have preferred it to be C- third party but I can't think of any


Yea thats what I was going to type in before I thought of my own solution. If that's the answer though it's not as good as mine because it's completely abstract (can't actually happen in intended mechanics) whereas the cultist answer (in the original OP he didn't say there was not a 4th player alive, just that it was 3 way lylo situation) can actually happen in intended mechanics.
Steven
over 9 years
Well, by definition, mafia can't win if there are no mafia alive (assuming of course a yakked blue would be considered not-blue anymore in the riddle.

So by process of elimination it must be A. I would have preferred it to be C- third party but I can't think of any
Atrophy
over 9 years

Steven says

If it's just a glitch solution I admit I liked atrophys answer more


there is no mechanic currently intended in the game which allows a player to be lynched on a day with only 3 blues alive, so the idea pranay was thinking of must violate intended mechanics.
Steven
over 9 years
If it's just a glitch solution I admit I liked atrophys answer more
Atrophy
over 9 years

Steven says

Even if someone is infected?


yes
Atrophy
over 9 years
since pranay just said theres 3 blues and only 3 blues alive, that makes the entire riddle less interesting. it means the solution is based on mechanics not working as intended, or glitching. my solution is the best solution even if pranay does not admit it.
Steven
over 9 years
I gotta confess I've never played zombie so wouldn't know
Steven
over 9 years
Even if someone is infected?
Atrophy
over 9 years

Steven says

The answer must have to do with third parties that can either win dead or have delayed effects.

I'm going to go with one of the blues is infected by zombie. Seems entirely possible by your rules


nope town would have already won in that case.
Steven
over 9 years
The answer must have to do with third parties that can either win dead or have delayed effects.

I'm going to go with one of the blues is infected by zombie. Seems entirely possible by your rules
Atrophy
over 9 years

Steven says

Nice pranay. Does it tell you who to investigate or just like all the possibilities for everyone


it would not solve his riddle if not the former
Steven
over 9 years
Nice pranay. Does it tell you who to investigate or just like all the possibilities for everyone
Atrophy
over 9 years

pranay7744 says

also steven if u can come online i can show u a program that i built. to solve the cop riddle. it will narrow down ur options easily and tell the roles. and it can easily solve the dethy game.


dethy and ur riddle is just simple algebra : /
Atrophy
over 9 years

pranay7744 says

there is no cultist.

3 villagers and only 3 villagers alive. no 4 way. just 3 way.


if theres 3 lynch options its 3 way, which my solution satisfies. if there is another solution i think its less elegant than mine.
pranay7744
over 9 years
also steven if u can come online i can show u a program that i built. to solve the cop riddle. it will narrow down ur options easily and tell the roles. and it can easily solve the dethy game.
pranay7744
over 9 years
there is no cultist.

3 villagers and only 3 villagers alive. no 4 way. just 3 way.
Steven
over 9 years
Forced NL isn't 3 way.

Also, I use lylo from anti-town pov on reverse mafia, and I've seen people use it that way, and this would basically be reverse mafia.
Atrophy
over 9 years
no only 1 blue needs to agree to joint. that 1 blue can force NL with the cultist into a cultist blue win. lylo is always from town pov. it means town lynches or they lose. it is always from town pov. town only wins if town wins, not if 1 town member is culted and wins

the only way i can be incorrect is if the riddle defines the possible solutions as only A and B, which is the only rule i broke.
Steven
over 9 years
Of course, I am assuming that it is "3 way lylo" and not "3 way" and "lylo". If it is the latter, then you would be correct if all blues jointed
Steven
over 9 years
You're only partially correct even still, the only way it is 3 way is if all of the blues agree to joint and even then it is not lylo cuz you're looking at it from the cultist win pov. "Lylo" from the town point of view means that you must lynch cultist or lose, 3 way means there are three options for cultist.

If one blue joints it is split, so 2 way from cult pov

If two blue joint, then the last person is lynched so 1 way from cult pov

If all blues joint, it is 3 way from cult pov but it is not lylo, as they can NL for the joint.
Atrophy
over 9 years

Steven says


Atrophy says

steven when does pranay base his riddles on misinterpreting what a word means..


Well he said "trick" riddle so you never know


put urself in pranay's shoes... would you bother making a topic about a riddle based on misunderstanding what is meant by "blue"?
Steven
over 9 years

Atrophy says

steven when does pranay base his riddles on misinterpreting what a word means..


Well he said "trick" riddle so you never know
Atrophy
over 9 years
no it wouldnt its a 3 way lylo because there are 3 lynchable options because cultist is known and at least 1 villager is agreeing to join for more points with cultist

the cultist is the "clear"
Steven
over 9 years
Atrophy would be right: however that would be 4 way lylo not 3 way with the information we have. Jointing blue would still be 4 way unless there is a clear, which it doesn't state in the thread or state otherwise
Atrophy
over 9 years
no one can come up with a better answer than mine, not even pranay