It's ogi since it's to do with running which is an outside factor similarly stating you don't n1 runners. it's also gt since you hammer the person you tr meaning you're not playing to win but moreso playing to obtain a pixilated trophy. You could probably hammer your tr and get away with no violation by claiming you scumread him at the end, the mods would probably not be able to see you threw and give you the benefit of the doubt.

felons we understand what you're saying but we're also asserting that it's actually irrelevant to the theoretical scenario presented in the OP

I read your post it was just condescending so I didn't want to respond to it directly

What I'm trying to say is people hammer / n1 people based on their standing & through grudges all the time you cannot give a person a violation for NOT blatantly game throwing because that's just unacceptable.

Connor, lets make up a new scenario - what if the same two people are in a game and the same person who had the hammer N1's the other player so they have a better chance of reaching their goal; is that also a violation in your eyes?

so, you didn't even read my post

It's theoretical for a reason.

Last I checked this is not a movie and there is no such thing as mind readers, you cannot prove a persons intention or thought process so you cannot rule a violation on that. IF the person states prior to the hammer or in the post game that they made that hammer for above reasons then I totally agree with you. With no WRITTEN evidence I cannot plausible see a moderator really giving a violation over this. If that happens I lose all respect I have for a moderator.

felons the theoretical clearly states that the user hammering had intent to lock their trophy regardless of whether a mod can tell. you lack reading comprehension

So i'd probably have a field day tearing apart any moderator who even thought of giving such a punishment to a player.

You can't prove it's game throwing so you cannot give them a violation if you're at a 3way and you town read someone your read can change that day or that second before the hammer - as long as the person doesn't blatantly say they're hammering the person just so they secure their position no one can tell them otherwise if you know it or not. Moderators cannot read minds and they cannot tell what someone is thinking even if they're sure the person hammered because of the run they have no real evidence to prove that.

Personally I don't think it matters because either way you're sabotaging someone else's run when you think they're town and you should have your trophy taken away, but I'd go with gamethrowing. Either way it seems like something that's near impossible to prove anyway.

I'd go with the harsher of the two - you're using the outside game influence as a reason to throw the game, so I'd give GT.

But yeah, if it was that close I would not want to play in a game with another runner. I would've left the table.

gamethrowing

Connor says

i will as soon as u stop being an irrelevant person

Sick burn.

SystemOverload says

Connor says

you're nothing special kid

Did you run on more than one account? No?

Snicker.

And I said what I do next, Pranay. I give them both vios because I liked to smash things like that. But as I also said, it's really really easy to cover your tracks when doing something like that, so anyone with a brain will just FoS the other guy all game and always be unsure, so they can justify a hammer in advance.

And as you repeated what I said, I really have no idea what your point is.

i will as soon as u stop being an irrelevant person

Connor says

you're nothing special kid

Did you run on more than one account? No? Alright, stop making irrelevant comments.

you're nothing special kid

Bizarro says

the day it is that way, people with most alts will win trophies

I only ever run on one account, so that's a fallacy. Soda/you/brown are the only players I can think of that ran on 4+ accounts at the same time.

the day it is that way, people with most alts will win trophies

Owning your competition isn't rule-breaking.

also some people might think that trophy win> game win, which should give them the right to play that way, but it doesnt. because trophy belongs to the person who is good at mafia, not just good at throwing on alts and trophy running.

PS: should organize a no rules competition (with unranked games), where u just go for trophy instead of games. so u can throw on alts

Also your none of the above and all of the above are terrible options in the poll, one has none of the above above it and the other has nothing above it.

But it's both rules were broken, but they will probably just get GT, similar to how when someone trolls and GTs they only get GT usually

@riot- it sure is stupidity to join that game, but that already happened. what do u do next. you talk like bronto, who punishes the person who joined that game. thats how the current mod team operates though

When a person breaks two rules like that, moderators frequently give the one with the higher punishment; in this case, depending on the violations the user has, probably ganethrowing.