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voting outside of cops in jan 2.0

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gamethrowing? not optimal?

results are in
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not gamethrowing, i have a mind of my own
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gamethrowing
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skyline says

if you do not lynch in cops then you give whoever is the real cop another chance for a report or force scum to sac


the extra report is exceedingly unlikely to be useful, it's just putting off a necessary vote for a later day when there's potentially less benefit. I don't see the point even though it's a totally legitimate strategy

by pure mathematics it might even be sub-optimal
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CharlesMark says

so in short: if you want to win, go with the flow and focus your energy on doing what you have the power to do to effect the outcome.

playing weird strategies, even optimal ones, will not win you games

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so in short: if you want to win, go with the flow and focus your energy on doing what you have the power to do to effect the outcome.

playing weird strategies, even optimal ones, will not win you games
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jan 2.0 sucks
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also most players don't actually care about what is optimal.
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skyline says

i am sure if someone told an epicmafia player that it was optimal to jump off a cliff they would do it without second thought


only if every trophy winner before them jumped off a cliff
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i am sure if someone told an epicmafia player that it was optimal to jump off a cliff they would do it without second thought
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CharlesMark says

you are only thinking about d1

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Jupiter says

Not optimal is correct :)

Lynching outside of cops isn't worth the 2/6 chance or w/e it is

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if they end up lynching outside the cops they will lynch you instead because jan2 is an established setup with no room for free thought.

this was also a problem in AnD
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i am going to advocate lynching outside of cops in all of my jan 2.0 setups and report the results back here.
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you are only thinking about d1
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if you do not lynch in cops then you give whoever is the real cop another chance for a report or force scum to sac
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Not optimal is correct :)

Lynching outside of cops isn't worth the 2/6 chance or w/e it is
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if you lynch right mafia has to sac cop then you dont have to decide so...
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op update
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i think it's a homofuck thing to do.s o yes, gamtehrowing.
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also it requires a massclaim and people dont like that
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CharlesMark says

actually lynching outside of cops is optimal unless you think cop is janned but people are to *** scared to not have a "clear" cop d2


a good post
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If the whole town is voting between cc's there's no reason to split, but gamethrowing is always defined by intent.
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actually lynching outside of cops is optimal unless you think cop is janned but people are to *** scared to not have a "clear" cop d2
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Zlake says

its effectively u not taking a side between the cops, which is inherently a scum thing to do


explain
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its effectively u not taking a side between the cops, which is inherently a scum thing to do
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Zlake says

its not gamethrowing but its severely anti-town


how is wanting to lynch my scum-read bad
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game in question:
https://epicmafia.com/game/3310083

i was told by many epicmafia competitive players that voting people who you do not believe to be town is GT