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civilian mechanics

over 10 years

mechanics of the civilian make the role hard to fit into the conventional setup format without making the game entirely luck based or swingy.

the only solution to this currently seems to be populating the entire town with them.

eg. if you put 1 civ in a setup, the entire setup revolves around protecting the civ.

if you have 2, it becomes a luckbased game with no actual point.

if you have 3 or 4 (say you want it to be the blue replacement) mafia is near guaranteed a win after 1 mislynch on a mislynch setup, and the role is useless entirely if you didnt have a mislynch to start with.

if you have 5+ the setup becomes viable, but you have no room for PRS


suggested fix: make the mafia win mechanic activate when all civs are dead.

this way you can have 2-4 in a setup, instead of essentially being forced to have 1 or 5+

over 10 years
wait. you can start a game with consigs as the only mafia? i always assumed that would bug the setup. interesting idea, but loudmouth too OP with 3 PRs imo
over 10 years
Made a new setup with 1 civ:
https://epicmafia.com/setup/1098837
deletedover 10 years
EXACTLY. Omg, I wanted to make my own jailer vs gator set up, and i wanted to add civilian, but it was just so hard i gave up. This would make it much easier. <3 Fully support.
over 10 years

CharlesMark says

sex and lies knockoff with civs and reveal https://epicmafia.com/setup/1096742


tested this and it actually feels pretty balanced
over 10 years
u cant protect a civ with a witch tho!
over 10 years
"eg. if you put 1 civ in a setup, the entire setup revolves around protecting the civ."

I think that is the most fun way of playing with a civ. See
https://epicmafia.com/setup/1096743
over 10 years
sex and lies knockoff with civs and reveal https://epicmafia.com/setup/1096742
over 10 years
well, i just tested the masoned civ death scenario. if the role stays as is, maybe a conversion setup would work.
over 10 years
Im not sure how much this will help , but it's an improvment to say the least.
over 10 years
or we can just file this under "nobody cares" and let the civ become another role that will never be taken seriously.