What's the stronger mafia in B2NS? Is it better for mafia to keep the GF or the hooker alive if they feel like they should bus? Curious because I'm not too familiar with the setup meta and I could see it going either way.
I know it usually depends, but like in VDLI it's pretty uncommon for nilla to bus stalker, bussing Godfather in BV, etc.
What do you think is the more valuable PR to keep alive in B2NS?
if gf is getting lynched fish the cop so that the hooker can hook the cop. outing only doc will not help.
if hooker is getting lynched he should fish the doc, because if doc /cop/miller all live then it is autowin with gf alive. if you fish the cop then the gf can do nothing.
If a pr dies n1 then go smoke some **** while town self destructs. If getting lynched, fish the only alive pr. DO NOT claim the role of the dead pr. It might happen if you are high.
rule number 1 --- never tell anyone a strategy for mafia
-- because mafia is the informed minority-- they are supposed to discuss their strategy during the night based on the roles available.
-- exceptions can be made where a maf has no night meeting and needs to know what he should claim
For B2NS- the town should not claim day1. If the day is towards the end, he should claim if he is in danger of getting lynched. If the cop is confident about the hooker then he should claim and lynch the hooker. Then find guilty to clear miller and dont out your reports as long as doc is alive
- if a pr dies n1ad lib. Improvise. Use pranay level skills.
This is wrong. Always avoiding lynching your partners or always lynching your partners is called "Playing predictably". There are plenty of times when it's optimal to bus, and too many people either bus at times when they shouldn't or fail to bus at times that they should. End of.
Also, it's really simple as to which mafia is better; If the cop is hidden, then the GF is way better. If the cop is not hidden, then the hooker is substantially better. (The exception here is if the cop has reports which could lead to a scenario that would confirm the hooker, In which case the godfather is obviously better but not by much.)
I would say, if you wanted a 'definitive' answer, that the GF staying alive is far more optimal. There are way more roles he/she can claim and the mafia's game doesn't automatically fall apart with a particular role dying (unlike Hooker who is screwed when a miller dies).
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you should actually just avoid bussing because bussing is really dumb unless your partner is scummy.
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actually, mafia should just avoid being lynched. all these posts are wrong except mine.
on a deliberate bus, the godfather can still have a strong chance at winning if the hooker claims doctor, while the hooker has a chance of ending up in autoloss if they bus
that said, a bus with both PRs alive and hidden is not a great idea
I agree with that too, I'm just curious if this is one of those setups where you should try to keep alive one particular mafia like in other setups. (ie especially avoid bussing one role over the other)
I think this is one of those things that always depends on n1 death. If there's a doc/cop, Hooker trumps GF. If miller dies, GF trumps Hooker.
I would say, however, that it's more likely that hooker is found early on (test the guilty, dead miller etc) and GF can last way longer in games so if you're talking about the longevity of the maf's chances of winning, I'd say GF.
But it's definitely dependant on n1.
NB: busses should only ever be used where it's absolutely necessary and your partner is either REALLY scummy or where there's a cop etc.
you should never buss in any setup unless your partner is acting scummy imho
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iirc, the GF never cc's PR, and the hooker claims to be miller or CC's a PR in most cases, which is usually doctor on D1 if the majority is on him/her.
