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Refunds for lynching clears

almost 8 years

Gold-heart games should always be refunded whenever somebody is lynched who was confirmed town, either by:

  1. claiming a power role that nobody else claims (in the absence of role obfuscation – janitor, tailor etc); or
  2. providing a reasonable argument that they are clear (having a gun in lylo, hammering mafia in lylo etc).

This should occur when it causes or contributes to a town loss, regardless of whether or not a violation is given.

It's easy to accidentally click the wrong name, or overlook important information and make a stupid decision. It's just as easy to click the wrong name so that your friend wins – or somebody you dislike loses – and then claim it was an accident.

If the lynch was a genuine mistake, then it doesn't matter how much mafia deserved to win, because town deserved to lose even less.

If people abuse this rule, for e.g. lynching the clear to avoid a potential loss, this can be considered gamethrowing by playing in such a way as to invalidate the game.

I don't see any reason this shouldn't be a rule.

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Please make this a thing.
almost 8 years
One more time for voidz and epicanova
Hahahahahaha
almost 8 years
as a matter of fact, instead of this stupid thread how about you idiots get rid of this stupid self vote for clears meta that you guys love so much and lead lynches so you can actually get reactions and alignment tells?
almost 8 years
that arcbell soda game shoulda prob been refunded based off the circumstances though but this is a stupid idea
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Hahahaha arcbell totally just got away with blatantly gamethrowing
almost 8 years
no, it's part of the game.


you can't invalidate all the work mafia did throughout the game because someone made a mistake.

will you also refund the game when last mafia accidentally hits their cc or something into autoloss?
almost 8 years
"how do I sound smart in this forum post? I'll drop "obfuscation," that'll do the trick" - epicanova
almost 8 years

Rutab says

Did you think about the possibility of "accidentally" misclicking so that the game can be refunded?

Don't like your role? Misclick! It'll be refunded!
Think you're gonna lose! Misclick! It'll be refunded!

See where I'm going with this?


yes
almost 8 years
Did you think about the possibility of "accidentally" misclicking so that the game can be refunded?

Don't like your role? Misclick! It'll be refunded!
Think you're gonna lose! Misclick! It'll be refunded!

See where I'm going with this?
almost 8 years

Arcbell says

Refunds are never issued due to mistakes. Never have, never will be.


that's really wrong man
almost 8 years
Yeah it's easy to do a million things to help your friends win

This would be incredibly stupid because everyone makes mistakes and is negligent at times

It happensssssssss
almost 8 years
that's a good signal. they'll never know
almost 8 years
It wasn't on purpose.
almost 8 years
give me a signal if it was on purpose
almost 8 years
Yes, I did ):
almost 8 years

Arcbell says

I didn't decide to misclick. The "mis" in "misclick" stands for "mistake"

If the mods thought I threw that game, it'd be refunded. Refunds are never issued due to mistakes. Never have, never will be.


hahahahaha did you actually lynch a clear
almost 8 years
I didn't decide to misclick. The "mis" in "misclick" stands for "mistake"

If the mods thought I threw that game, it'd be refunded. Refunds are never issued due to mistakes. Never have, never will be.
deletedalmost 8 years
But if its in lylo and someone decides to "Misclick" clear to get a refund due to they were most likely going to lose, it shouldn't be refunded. This should be in matters where it was obvious.