If this turn scum sided:
s1: virgin
s2: ?
s3: ?
s4: turncoat

Others i might consider are mimic and gallis

Add whispers and replace deps with sheriffs please. That could help make this less maf sided.

Whispers would help the snoop :]

Easily best setup in Main.

Btw, games can get relatively lengthy, many days and nights require their full 10/2.5 mins. Plan ahead if you've gotta leave.

I feel like this is really mafia sided. Mainly because it requires logic for town to win and town cannot into logic.

I like this setup, but this have two problems.

1. Deputy/Vigilante are really bad roles for ranked/competitive, why? Because town LOVE's fungunning, any setup with them will be mafia sided, not for the setup at all, it's for the stupidness of the general town for fungun, and on this setup, fungun incorrect is a high odd, and if you do it, it's mostly autolose.

2 If people don't read the rules (they never do that), they can't know that the Detective reports is before the Tailors suits and after the Actress act, it's a problem for town because Detectives tend to wifom with him's report because that.

3. The deputy is not usefull at all for town, fungun/randomgun is not allowed because bad odds for autolose, and even if they shoot a mafia,, it's not autowin generally. So, deputy only can shoot to "confirmed mafia", it's just for it, a rare circustance for save the town from another night.

Pony remade this with an additional blue. This means town can safely nl d1 for more reports if wanted. Also if deputy/sniper is shot before she could use her gun, town gets an ML. Pony thinks it should be enough to balance it. http://www.epicmafia.com/setup/535927 Plus it if you can please, so it can be ranked too ♥

http://www.epicmafia.com/setup/536078 Actually, forget pony's previous message. She thinks that giving a version a try with virgins instead of villagers is a better idea (thanks to TheeSORA for mentioning that role could be useful here). This will only make it a _bit_ more townsided (like when one of the shooters gets shot before she could use her gun -> free ml on a virgin), but hopefully that's just enough. Happened quiet often during the tests. Pony still doubts that it'll actually be scumsided after town gets a bit more competent @ it anyways. If/when it does become townsided we can always switch back to this setup. For now, pony recommends trying this one: http://www.epicmafia.com/setup/536078

Bah forget it, virgins are broken. The system message fires off every time a virgin is killed, regardless if it was nightkilled or shot, even though it doesn't actually prevent night-kills. This makes it senseless to suit anyone as virgin, as everyone will know it's not their real role. Due to the fact that suits only come from the active setup ( http://www.epicmafia.com/topic/42696 ) suiting as mortician/snoop/dep makes it easier for town to figure the setup out, therefore the only sensible suit that remains is detective. This greatly reduces the usefullness of Tailor and the sense of the whole setup, so pony recommends going back to the 4-blues version. If Tailor could pick suits from any setup, and virgins didn't ever trigger a system-message, the 3-virgin one would be perfectly balanced pony thinks.

Anyways, this is the currently recommended setup by pony: http://www.epicmafia.com/setup/535927 if anyone has an idea how to make this balanced with only 10 players (but keeping 2sniper/2dep/1sniper1dep + suits + orc), don't hesitate to share it.