Don't forget that with the new points system, a town win will grant more points due to the increased difficulty.

95% of the time I get lawyer. It sucks.

It's balancing out just because town has decided to out cop day 1. And mafia has decided to CC cop. CCing cop means you cannot say cop is janned. and you pretty much ruin the point of having the janitor.

Not if maf jans cop and both maf cc. Guess that doesn't happen a lot, though.

If mafia jans cop (i do this all the time) Jan claims guilty on the nilla, lawyer claims random inno. lynch the guilty as always, see the jan is legit, lynch the lawyer. Then kill the more aware townies, and get innos on orcs/dead people tillu win with orc at 3way.

Remove the miller and its 50% 50%

No, miller makes it balanced. Bad townies that can't scumhunt make it mafia sided.

a very balanced setup :D

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town needs to get the fuck off its crymoar horse and not assume a PR is janned every fucking game. COP CLAIMS D1 NO EXCEPTIONS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR REPORT EVEN IF DOC 'MITE B DEAD'. Then, when there are cc's, you lynch one of them. Don't guilty test because some guy could be bussing and there's millers and it proves nothing. LYNCH BETWEEN CC'S.
Also, if there are no cc's don't just assume your cop is the janitor and scumhunt properly you 12's.

also, protip: contrary to popular belief town can actually win a game without a cop to sheep. just need to utilize a dangerous, long forgotten tool known as the scumhunt. So don't fucking fret if you might be lynching your cop d1. You can get the maf d2 and hit 5-way guaranteed. With any luck you'll still have a doc/orc/both and likelihood of netting maf on 5-way WILL be anywhere between 50% and 100% if you just THINK. but for this to work you have to actually lynch a cc so don't cry about how you're going to lynch cop bawwwww

Saying a setup is maf sided because "town cant scum hunt" is just like saying a setup is town sided "because maf acts too scummy". its dumb.

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PROTIP: LAWYER DOES /NOT/ CC COP. NILLA DOES.

ffs, lawyer cc'ing is pretty damn stupid. Why? Because if the lawyer gets lynched and real cop survives, ALL INNOS FROM THEN ON BECOME INSTANTLY CLEAR. And if mafia then hit miller, they're even more fucked. DO NOT CC COP AS LAWYER, that's SDS or some shit. If you do and you get lynched, 99% chance mafia will LOSE unless you kill doc and cop :|

Why not have jan cc cop 'unless' he jans doc?

Jan should definitely claim cop. He has the info. The only reason to not do it is if he jans doc, as you said.

I might change it up occasionally for wifom, but it would be rare.

such a boring, over-played setup.

Darwin 4 days 21 hours
such a boring, over-played setup.

My favorite setup

Good setup, however very slightly townsided. But not enough for it to be a major problem.

i'm calling it now, this setup is going to carry someone bad to top three since it's really not that hard of a town win if you think about it competently

u were right bear

Im p sure bear was talking about me in the first place, as i was already doing p good when he said it. Keep in mind, although it would be lulz if an account with this bad of a record won gold, it was my first account and i ditched it until just recently. Compare the stats of the roles i played in training to the roles ive playes since then bro.