I don't want to become a moderator in near future, this is another matter. I just noticed that tubby got a violation and wanted to see what an absurdity had happened.
dzanek1143 you know mod apps are still open, please feel free to apply since you disagree with my application of the vio even if i explained from head to toe why i believed it was vio :)
Ravennn was softing caroler claim to tubby for the whole D2. tubby had no motive to throw, it was just a failed attempt to rs on lylo where mafia would hook-kill caroler claim for the next day.
Your reasoning to give tubby a vio is flawed. You say tubby played for maf win condition, while tubby was getting tricked by mafia's fake carol. You said about only 2 caroler claims, while tubby wasn't expecting the real caroler to out as third cc just to get killed by mafia, when the game provided no protective roles, which has the sense of being hidden. It didn't matter if caroler was jan'd or not as you'd give the same verdict in case if sheriff wasn't jan'd and uncc'd caroler claim could be maf.
trik claimed caroler d1, dominique outed d1 and trik said no, she caroled godofdarkness. then she retracted after realising sheriff wasn't claiming.
you refused to retract as a blue, even knowing sheriff was janned seeing as there was no shot.
you were basically playing for maf's win condition at this point (which happened, since caroler was lynched) since only you and trik were ccs and there were only two caroler claims, you and trik. it makes 0 sense for caroler to be hiding at that point at lylo, and impossible for caroler to be janned unless sheriff was gting.
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