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closeddeletedover 7 years
Cheating/Meta abuse w/ GuyFawkes85 - https://pastebin.com/UeS6QVZb
deletedover 7 years
"4. Jonsnow, 1st in the leaderboard right now, has accurate reads both if I'm in the game or not, and if I'm town or not, or he wouldn't be 1st."

all i read from u and is false so i'll stop reading whatever else u wrote.

https://epicmafia.com/game/6128394/review a game where i'm maf and i keep him alive. he had wrong reads all game and ends up lynching wrong on lylo into a loss
over 7 years
I'm teh only person that wasn't investigated or binned 565 fgt
over 7 years
Hey jonsnow are u feeling ok? Me n roo were throwing against each other on our alts. U got mad n when Gerry n Mori played 20+ games with each other every round, why did u leave that example out?
over 7 years
Did he say involucrated
over 7 years
Also, I'm an unbiased mod and the most honest user on this site. If you don't believe me, then there's no one to believe.
over 7 years
I'll only answer once, because I was involucrated, but I won't stay here for days answering all the comments, you're warned.

I'll just answer to the conclusions BBB drew in his pastebin:

Let's go in order. These are his conclusions:

1. jonsnow and guyfawkes never kill each other as mafia (meta abuse)
2. jonsnow and guyfawkes lead n1 kills in all those games
3. guyfawkes plays like whenever he's maf and jon is town
4. jonsnow has accurate reads whenever guyfawkes is maf

These are my answers:

1. Not n1'ing someone isn't meta abuse (which is abusing meta, not "not killing someone")
2. Jonsnow and I lead n1 kills in all those games, so what?
3. I've always been better as town. In this round I've won only 2 games as mafia, 7 as town (I have 9 wins in total)
4. Jonsnow, 1st in the leaderboard right now, has accurate reads both if I'm in the game or not, and if I'm town or not, or he wouldn't be 1st.

Thanks for reading.

Good luck on your run, Jon. Go get that gold, you deserve it
deletedover 7 years
Abc I'm not cheating with Anthony and I don't even know xela outside em??? Lmfao
over 7 years
I'm not one of ABC's "Cheating buddies". I explained to you my situation, you should edit/revoke that statement.
deletedover 7 years
https://epicmafia.com/game/6128394/review game where i as maf leave jonsnow alive both nights and he ends up hammering wrong on lylo
deletedover 7 years
i lynched u wrongly in ONE game. then i was killed at night and town lynched wrong on lylo which is what lead to the loss.
in the other 2 games i was cop and didnt lynch u, then other one i was maf and didnt even kill u yet U managed to lynch wrong into a loss.
over 7 years
madvb23 the one who hammered me when i was doc, which lead to a loss. You haven't addressed the things i mentioned about you deliberately throwing against me in the past and during this round. Self-proclaimed top tier player known for cheating for self and others 10/10. Also, i think i see where this is going, you're a drama and attention seeker and i'll just stop feeding your need, i'm not your shrink after all and my pity is turning to annoyance at this point. You're beyond salvation. Have a great day and enjoy talking to yourself !
deletedover 7 years
https://epicmafia.com/game/6112725/review another mutual scum win together

we have at least 2 mutual scum wins ON AN INCREDIBLY TOWNSIDED SETUP ALSO IN COMPETITIVE. this shows we're just top tier players
deletedover 7 years
2 top tier players with multiple trophies having mutual wins isnt suspicious - especially when some of the mutual wins r scum wins together https://epicmafia.com/game/6125834/review

WHEREAS a mediocre playing having 100% wins AGAINST his buddy is suspicious af
deletedover 7 years
who tf is kfc looooool

caroline maybe is cheating with anthony and xela, go look into them if u want.

me and rooo were looked into that round and were cleared.

yh i played on jeiujk with rooo this round we have a bunch of mutual wins. NOTE THEYRE MUTUAL WINS AND NOT ROOO HAVING A BUNCH OF WINS OVER ME LIKE U HAVE OVER GUYFAWKES

as for my other accounts i only played with rooo's non-running accounts and i have at least 1 win over him (on madvb23)
over 7 years
I mentioned 7 games played with you on your account named Jeiujk. You probably played more using different accounts, i don;t know all of them but the mods do. ^
over 7 years
" as only a particular alignment every game" - kfc. You said it yourself, it has to be a specific thing done in a specific scenario, but we're playing games as we see fit, we don't n1 each other as a specific alignment which means, your statement doesn't count here, chicken nugget.
over 7 years
No meta abuse although it could've been in the following:
https://epicmafia.com/round/552 Caroline - gold trophy (16 with Anthony/ 9 with xela)

https://epicmafia.com/round/565 Roo -gold trophy (10 with kfc main account; probably a couple more with his alts); Temper - silver trophy (9 games with none other than roo)

This round dsmith97 played 7 games with you and won 6 of them together. In the past he trophied after playing with both your and rednose. Don't tell me you're 100% clean of either of his runs because i won't believe you.
deletedover 7 years
i repeat - u have played thousands of games with guyfawkes, show me a game where either of u n1 the other (the game has to have occurred before this report)

yh obv meta abuse
deletedover 7 years
saying u only do X as town/maf or never kill a certain player as maf = honest meta (if it's true)

doing only X as town or maf or never killing ur friend as maf to the point where ppl pick up on that = meta abuse

both honest meta and meta abuse r against the rules. what u're doing is meta abuse
deletedover 7 years
his opinion is bias bc he's ur friend and he's in the same EM fam as u and he has played hundreds of games with u in that setup u created which i linked.

also if a player does something specific (ie. like not killing their friend every time they're maf) as only a particular alignment every game then ppl start to pick up on that and clear the player if X doesn't die which gives a huge advantage and thus it is meta abuse. Carrots
over 7 years
His opinion is not bias, his opinion is fair because he knows both me and GuyFawkes, unlike you who just speculate. No one is giving Caroline a hard time and she's going to trophy most likely yet again after having played games with Anthony and Shamzy. I'm not accusing her of anything , i'm just saying i'm the only one who has to deal with this filth. You've GTed against me in the past Banned user kfc, you even admitted it to a common friend at that time who ratted you out. You even GTed against me this round and now you're coming with this pathetic report. It's almost amusing , the person who cheated the most on this website to accuse me of meta abusing when i've never done anything wrong. Good job dog, you should better find something more useful to do with your life instead of wasting your youth on this website.
over 7 years
Not N1'ing each other is not meta abuse, Carrots.
deletedover 7 years
https://epicmafia.com/setup/1200180 jonsnow's setup where Guyfawkes, Jonsnow and dzanek are the ppl who've played the setup the most
deletedover 7 years
also anthony actually has 2 wins over caroline. GUYFAWKES HAS NO WINS OVER U. IN THOSE GAMES IT WASNT EVEN MUTUAL WINS, IT WAS U WINNING OVER HIM EVERY GAME
deletedover 7 years
u guys might not have cheated but there is blatant meta abuse which warrants a DQ. u have played thousands of games with guyfawkes, show me a game where either of u n1 the other (the game has to have occurred before this report)