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closeddeletedabout 8 years
GT. https://epicmafia.com/game/5461441/review It looks like this guy is deliberately losing any game he flips as mafia. In this game we hit BP N1 and he CC'd; he knows better. Then N3 he refused to sac the oracle; he knows better. He was not trying to win his CC. All his lines were clearly half-hearted. I'm listing other games in the comments where he's done similar things.
about 8 years
Lol apparently this is abc. Shocker.
deletedabout 8 years
I didn't agree; you didn't give me an option. I didn't check the game you won as mafia lol. I just took note of your plays like I already said, and then saw you'd lost ~7 games consecutively, which surprised me because you aren't terrible.
deletedabout 8 years
I lost as mafia twice in a row and then my mafia partner who agreed with my (correct) decision to kill a blue decided later that it was gamethrowing, my bad, ban me.

, this website causes me way too much stress.
deletedabout 8 years
How could you write "It looks like this guy is deliberately losing any game he flips as mafia" when there was a game on my profile which I'm sure you checked where I carried as mafia?
about 8 years
I've never resorted to trying to get refunds for my win and I'm not now. I thought your play was weird leading up to our game as mafia together, and was surprised to see you get lynched as stalker d1 twice in a row, even though I hammered one of them. Those games, plus your sub-optimal play as my partner, made me question what you were doing.
deletedabout 8 years
It's funny how you cite the game where you townread me because of my "tone" as evidence of me trying to be scummy. God, you're so pathetic. You were so upset at being lynched in the game where we were both mafia together that you went through all of my games scrounging for evidence that you could use as ammunition for a report. Good luck with your run, Juke, if you feel like you need to resort to doing this to win you'll need it.
about 8 years
I chose to kill Dawn because you made it obvious you wouldn't sac the oracle. In this scenario sure, we would have been in autoloss, but you didn't know that and wanted to play sub-optimally, in my opinion.

I don't believe GeorgeCarlin made any indication that he thought I was the best player at the table. If he did, why would he believe I wouldn't sac the oracle?

Like I said, mods will decide. If I'm deemed to be in the wrong then I'm fine with that.
deletedabout 8 years
You chose to kill Dawn, not me. I only advised you to not sac the oracle. You agreed with me, and voted first. If we had killed the oracle, we would have been in autoloss. It was likely that the oracle would be on you because in GeorgeCarlin's opinion you were the best player on the table. I didn't need to bother explaining that to you though. If you want confirmation about that, ask him yourself.

I can take any tone that I choose. I have taken this tone as mafia and as town. I like to see what works and what doesn't.
about 8 years
https://epicmafia.com/game/5461352 - In this game you admitted to be playing differently but never answered why. It's weird that you would deliberately draw attention to yourself with an unexplained attitude to the game.

Then in the game we were mafia together, you CC'd when you obviously know better and wouldn't sac orc which is the optimal play.
about 8 years
Cool. Mods can rule on it. I just find it weird that you're playing completely differently to how you did last round and doing all this sub-optimal crap that is clearly losing you games yet you continue to do it.
deletedabout 8 years
https://epicmafia.com/game/5461469 - In this game I claim un-hit BP on D2 as a reaction test and then lynch Sinek8 because PhyZix told me that his reads were not going to change. The other pr lead on the town day 1, I voted the town d2, after PhyZix told me that he wasn't going to change his mind about Sinek8. Since he had made up his mind there was no reason to no lynch.
deletedabout 8 years
https://epicmafia.com/game/5461291 - In this game I try my best and carries my mafia team. But Juke wouldn't want that game to be seen by the moderators. That would disprove his theory that I deliberately lose any game I flip mafia.

https://epicmafia.com/game/5461352 - In this game Juke decides that he has so much meta on me that he's confident that if I deviate from his expectations I must be gamethrowing. I get lynched d1 as stalker by accident.

https://epicmafia.com/game/5461399 - In this game I attempt to fake a townslip by voting the pr at the start of the day after they vote me. I don't post much because no one is talking to me. I get lynched as stalker by accident again.

https://epicmafia.com/game/5461441 - In this game I use a strategy which I've seen a moderator do, because I thought that bluefish's claim could be seen as forced. Juke gets lynched and is very butthurt that he was obvious since d1, as shown by the oracle's night choice.
about 8 years
Uh, first comment is supposed to say "adopts an extremely weird tone".
about 8 years
https://epicmafia.com/game/5461469 - In this game he claims un-hit BP on D2 when he has been hit. This could be labelled as bad play but it follows the pattern of him trying to lose and playing against his win condition. Both Sinek8 and PhyZix suspected Spite of GTing in my next game but we all left and it never started, so I can't show this. Spite lynches 2 blues consecutively into autoloss.
about 8 years
https://epicmafia.com/game/5461352 - In this game he adopts an extremely weird town outside of his meta and acknowledges that when I questioned it. He got himself lynched d1 as stalker.

https://epicmafia.com/game/5461399 - In this game he barely speaks at all and when he does it's useless spam or again with the weird tone from the previous game. He votes PR. Gets lynched as stalker d1 again.

https://epicmafia.com/game/5461441 - The game in the report above. This guy is clearly not a new player, alt or not, and in other games last round he clearly knew how to play. Now it's like he's totally forgotten basic mechanics and is just playing agains his win condition because he wants to lose.