People who use the strategy to no kill n1, then proceed to try and hit the cop are stupid. Trying this play to automatically remove a pr are abusing mechanics (namely the fact that every report in bv is 50/50). Mafia seriously just slit their wrists and are crying now because it hurt.

forcing the meteor when it is not autolose is against the rules. Further, it goes against their win condition to nk. Mafia's responsibility to not force the meteor should not be reflected by whether the doc saves the cop or not. By the very win conditions, saving the cop was optimal that night as we already had 2 reports.

The point remains mafia should not be able to force doc NOT to save cop or they'll make everyone lose. It's not right.

If this is even vio-worthy (it's not.), realize that I only followed whatever KEKEKE was doing. That's why I was so confused during N1, whatever he was talking about. Regardless, we all told doc to not save as this type of situation has occurred before countless of times. Mafia has never been given a violation for this.

why would mafia want to force a tied game when no one was even dead yet. That is not the right way to play this game. To either force a tied game or force doc to not save cop is cheating in my book. Mafia should HAVE to kill. It's not a fair way to play at all.

The fact is, it was said numerous times doc be on cop that night. You knew it was going to happen. You basically said let's do this and if doc is on cop, doc gamethrows. That's misuse of the meteor. Meteor is supposed to be so that people cannot perpetually nk and prolong a game, not force the doc to play against town win condition.

give meetterry the violation because they knew doctor would be on the cop (regardless of the doctor's misguidedness) and caused their loss regardless

Again, I can't find the report now, but according to precedent, doctor has been given a GT vio for this type of situation. NKing is not unoptimal in all cases. The entire town told Sceptical to NOT save as it would result in a tied game. Sceptical did not play to his win condition, as his choice to save the doc on meteor knowingly resulted in town loss.

nk'ing in any manner is not optimal play for mafia and quite frankly is a poor abuse of mechanics. Doc cannot get gt here for protecting our cop. As a matter of fact, if moderators read the mafia night chat, that should be enough.

Mafia should know town will protect cop. This is optimal play for town. So by continuing to basically "nk" by shooting at cop, you choose to nk, thus forcing meteor.

According to precedent, the doctor has GT'd for forcing a NK. Your logic can be reversed word-for-word: "Mafia should be able to kill the cop and it's basically saying "dont kill the cop or we'll make you all lose" this should not be allowed."