new toxicity rule1,074

the mod team has been considering the idea of making a new rule that encompasses game-related toxicity that doesn't fall under the umbrella of harassment or hateful comments. i'm making this thread so that we can have an open discussion with the community about your feelings on how this rule should be implemented.

here's a few key factors of the rule that the mod team tentatively agree on, but you're welcome to express your disagreement:

-the rule would be for game-related violations, and would not apply to reports or the forums

-the rule would encompass significant toxic behavior in a game that might not fall under harassment or hateful comments, such as repeatedly berating and insulting players in such a way that would make the game environment unpleasant to be in. this would not encompass a user calling another user "stupid", or using a normal amount of intimidation and aggressiveness as a strategy to win the game

-here's a draft of what the rule may look like if we implement it:
"any form of severe toxicity directed towards the other players in the game. This may include, but not limited to excessively berating another player because you do not like the way they are playing"

please leave your thoughts and comments on whether or not you support this rule, how you think we should implement it, and any other concerns/suggestions you might have!

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Alyssa6d 12h
YoSoyPabloEscobar
Why is this so controversial what did I miss
bullying is frowned upon; bullies storm out of the room
Bustaplease6d 12h
+2
YoSoyPabloEscobar
Why is this so controversial what did I miss
if you unknowingly insult someone a mod likes, you better hope you have someone on the team that likes you more
Joe6d 9h
+3
Bullying is an important part of EM, it's been a fixture of the site since I first got here. Change my mind.
Spondee6d 9h
+1
hi JOE
Germ5d 18h
+2
I dont care about em rules and Im not going to read more than 1% of this thread but

this seems like policing player behavior in ways that arent necessary. if it doesnt fall under harassment or spamming, why does it matter? reading someone in EM, a text based game, is hard enough without forcing them into smaller and smaller boxes of acceptable behavior. If someone wants to play hard headed and dominate the game, not allow anyone else to get control of the game, that's a a choice they should be allowed to make.

trying to avoid buzzwords, but a game of epicmafia isnt a safespace. if player X has the hammer, and you know they can have a bit of a limp wrist, you should try to abuse that knowledge. and if youre player X and youre not okay with being emotionally manipulated (which is completely valid), maybe dont play mafia?

but I dont know, I scanned a bit and didnt see anyone linking a game of someone exhibiting toxic behavior. maybe my mind would be changed, I just dont think it's a good idea to police behavior in a game that's behavior based. but if epicmafia is just a social hangout these days anyway, then go crazy
Carmen5d 17h
Reposting my public service offer for a new page!

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The fact that this rule got passed through is a testament to the vagrancy of this site's "leadership." I don't stand for it, and neither should you. That's why I'm encouraging a sitewide boycott against reporting anyone for this new rule.

I don't care if you're mortal enemies with someone, I don't care if they made you super mad in-game; we CANNOT let these mods get away with this kind of dystopic horror that will just lead to an enforced popularity contest.

Furthermore, I'd like to offer my services as legal counsel to anyone afflicted by this rule. If you get reported for this and need someone on your side, I'm there - pro bono, of course. I'll represent you with the fervor I just represented stinky with, because I find this new rule morally reprehensible.

Remember! Your feelings being hurt will go away, but the loss of our freedoms won't.
Clair5d 17h
this rule amendment is fake progress because its basically the exact same as harassment honestly
JM1235d 16h
lol gay
Sims4d 18h
+1
y'all care way too much about getting mad at online mafia
Sims4d 18h
Recidivism
Carmen
This is a silly rule. All the other rules are clear-cut, and even with something as simple as "the definition of GT is refusing to play toward your wincon", people still don't know when something is considered GT sometimes.

With something as vague as "toxicity", what even defines that? Confidence? Narcissism? If I say "never fuxcking doubt my reads again you sheep, I'm a mafia genius - you've killed this town with your ineptitude", like if I'm freaking out and mad and saying stuff like that, is that toxicity? Under this new rule, who knows!

It will be up solely to the mod who's reviewing the report, and believe me, this will only increase the circlejerk. I vote NO on proposition 13, and I hope you all do as well.
So very true. This is the stupidest thing epicmafia moderators have done since LaurieRose spoke English so poorly that she censored the word p.enal but not the word penile (funny that this has still not been fixed)

I am glad that this website is a safe space protected from the real world, so that the adult epicmafia moderators who still live with their mommy and daddy can be protected from reality here the same way mommy and daddy will protect them from reality until their mid 30s
couldn't agree more, except for the part where online mafia deserves this much of your anger and emotional energy
Matt124d 18h
Laurie Rose singlehandedly fuc ked this site
Matt124d 18h
And apparently other people on this lolll
Togepi4d 18h
Matt12
And apparently other people on this lolll
WHOA WHOA WHOA
Germ
I dont care about em rules and Im not going to read more than 1% of this thread but

this seems like policing player behavior in ways that arent necessary. if it doesnt fall under harassment or spamming, why does it matter? reading someone in EM, a text based game, is hard enough without forcing them into smaller and smaller boxes of acceptable behavior. If someone wants to play hard headed and dominate the game, not allow anyone else to get control of the game, that's a a choice they should be allowed to make.

trying to avoid buzzwords, but a game of epicmafia isnt a safespace. if player X has the hammer, and you know they can have a bit of a limp wrist, you should try to abuse that knowledge. and if youre player X and youre not okay with being emotionally manipulated (which is completely valid), maybe dont play mafia?

but I dont know, I scanned a bit and didnt see anyone linking a game of someone exhibiting toxic behavior. maybe my mind would be changed, I just dont think it's a good idea to police behavior in a game that's behavior based. but if epicmafia is just a social hangout these days anyway, then go crazy
According to one mod that posted in this thread, this rule will make the reports she reads more tolerable.